So, um, 300?

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So, um, 300?

Post by sum1won » Sat May 12, 2007 3:46 am

Who else has seen it?

There was a clever line about the sacred band.
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Post by SPQR » Sat May 12, 2007 10:11 am

i loved it, one of the best i have ever seen.(number 1 is ofcourse gladiator)
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Post by coldknight » Sun May 13, 2007 4:33 am

Yeas same here i still like gladiator more though, but 300 is next to it :wink:

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Post by duncan » Sun May 13, 2007 8:41 am

I'm going to cinema this afternoon with beverages and pop-corn and the likes...Being one of my favorite Historic scenarios, the comic (bought it four years ago) was already a disappointment so I expect the film to be disappointing too. But I think I'll enjoy the FX and the super-stereo sound and all those things, then I'll moan about it (6 € wasted, etc.)
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Post by SPQR » Sun May 13, 2007 8:54 am

its apowerful movie you havent wasted anything if you go see it!
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Post by luciusvarrus » Sun May 13, 2007 6:28 pm

I saw it the Monday after it opened. Having read a bit of the Graphic Novel, (I'm aware of Frank Miller's work) and read Steven Pressfield's "Gates of Fire" I was looking forward to it. Turns out I wasn't disappointed, sure it's not Herodotus. But visually it is stunning. I would definitely get the dvd.

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Post by SPQR » Sun May 13, 2007 9:36 pm

yeah i will get the dvd when it goes out
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Post by Redpossum » Sun May 13, 2007 11:34 pm

You guys have GOT to be kidding?

300? What an utter piece of trash. How the **** do you justify the ****ing rhinoceraus?

It's comicbook history, for the gods' sake, and utterly ahistorical. I just cannot believe that the type of people who hang out here would actually like such trash.

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Post by luciusvarrus » Mon May 14, 2007 12:09 am

First thing.

As I said I wasn't expecting Herodotus. NOW, I hope you can understand what that meant.
Do not presume to judge people's intelligence for liking a particular film. I knew it wasn't historically accurate. Did I not, mention "GATES OF FIRE"?

Second, The rhino? Simple. This was being told by a Spartan warrior just before Platea, around a campfire, to a bunch of Greek Soldiers, and of course when one is telling a story there are embellishments and exaggerations.

I mean even Shakespeare's "Histories" aren't 100% accurate either. There are embellishments, dramatic license thrown here and there.

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Post by SPQR » Mon May 14, 2007 10:02 am

i dont know much of the battle of thermplye so i like the movie for a movie. its cool and i enyoyed watching it.
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Post by dithyrambos » Tue May 15, 2007 8:56 pm

Being a history buff, when I first learned of 300, I was excited. But the more I learned about the movie, the less I wanted to see it. I watch historical films for the history, not the visuals. So I knew it would be a waste of my money to go see it. (not that I'm saying everyone who saw it wasted their money. I'm only saying that for a guy like me, who is interested in watching an accurate cinematic depiction of real events, it would be a waste). I'll stick with The 300 Spartans. Now THAT is a movie worth watching again and again (and I do watch it again and again, mind you). 8)
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Post by SPQR » Tue May 15, 2007 10:11 pm

i havent seen it but i will :wink:
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Post by Redpossum » Sun May 27, 2007 9:31 pm

dithyrambos wrote:Being a history buff, when I first learned of 300, I was excited. But the more I learned about the movie, the less I wanted to see it. I watch historical films for the history, not the visuals. So I knew it would be a waste of my money to go see it. (not that I'm saying everyone who saw it wasted their money. I'm only saying that for a guy like me, who is interested in watching an accurate cinematic depiction of real events, it would be a waste). I'll stick with The 300 Spartans. Now THAT is a movie worth watching again and again (and I do watch it again and again, mind you). 8)
Dithyrambos, you mean this one?

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Post by Redpossum » Sun May 27, 2007 9:35 pm

luciusvarrus wrote:First thing.

As I said I wasn't expecting Herodotus. NOW, I hope you can understand what that meant.
Do not presume to judge people's intelligence for liking a particular film. I knew it wasn't historically accurate. Did I not, mention "GATES OF FIRE"?

Second, The rhino? Simple. This was being told by a Spartan warrior just before Platea, around a campfire, to a bunch of Greek Soldiers, and of course when one is telling a story there are embellishments and exaggerations.

I mean even Shakespeare's "Histories" aren't 100% accurate either. There are embellishments, dramatic license thrown here and there.
I wasn't judging anybody's intelligence negatively. If anything, there was an implied compliment on that score.

What I was questioning was your good taste :)

And furthermore, your comments about a spartan exaggerating don't hold water. One thing the lacedaemonians were known for was their absolute insistence on strict and literal truth. Spartans were not shy about calling the athenians liars precisely because the athenians were given to exaggeration and embellishment.

If one is going to write historical fiction, one can at least pay the ancients the respect of making one's fiction historically credible.

In my personal opinion, the stand at Thermopylae was one of the finest moments in human history, exemplifying all that is best and most noble in the human spirit. A movie like "300" is an insult to Leonidas and all his heroes.

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Post by SPQR » Mon May 28, 2007 10:22 am

well "300" is not a historical movie its more of an action that would bring in much money. evan if there wasent a rhino all the 11 year old action feaks out there love it i quess. so they didnt do it for the history but for the money.
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Post by Redpossum » Mon May 28, 2007 1:14 pm

SPQR wrote:well "300" is not a historical movie its more of an action that would bring in much money. evan if there wasent a rhino all the 11 year old action feaks out there love it i quess. so they didnt do it for the history but for the money.
Good point, SPQR, good point.

I'm not unwilling to stretch things a bit, or indulge poetic license. I'd suspect old Homer himself embellished things a bit for poetry's sake. After all, Homer was no spartan ;)

I actually enjoyed the movie Troy.

I guess 300 just went too far for me...

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Post by dithyrambos » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:07 pm

possum wrote:
dithyrambos wrote:Being a history buff, when I first learned of 300, I was excited. But the more I learned about the movie, the less I wanted to see it. I watch historical films for the history, not the visuals. So I knew it would be a waste of my money to go see it. (not that I'm saying everyone who saw it wasted their money. I'm only saying that for a guy like me, who is interested in watching an accurate cinematic depiction of real events, it would be a waste). I'll stick with The 300 Spartans. Now THAT is a movie worth watching again and again (and I do watch it again and again, mind you). 8)
Dithyrambos, you mean this one?
Yup, that's the one. One of the best movies ever made IMHO.
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Post by sum1won » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:49 am

possum wrote:You guys have GOT to be kidding?

300? What an utter piece of trash. How the **** do you justify the ****ing rhinoceraus?

It's comicbook history, for the gods' sake, and utterly ahistorical. I just cannot believe that the type of people who hang out here would actually like such trash.
You must not have heard the clever line about the the Sacred Band.

In all honesty, though, I watched it for the same reason that I watched grindhouse. I wasn't in a thinking mood.
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Post by xhold0utx » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:16 am

it was a good movie but i did not like the end of it

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