US army in 1918

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US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:00 am

In commander the Great War, a thing that bothers me is how weak the US army is in 1918.

By 1918 (and the rest of the war) the US was a force to be reckoned with

They had TANKS
Powerful Artillery
Strong, maybe even better infantry because they had automatic weapons like the BAR and even the Thompson!
Navy was pretty strong
And they had a massive army because they had began drafting troops into the army!

I really wish this can be changed, and in General the Us is very weak in this game.

They are restricted to Inf and Arty, with naval capacity.

The US also had a very strong economy so industry should be up!

I was even able to invade the US (lol) in a test (The British attacked, and overwhelmed the poor us)

So please, consider buffing the US, as I feel they have a very small part in the war.

PLUS in 1918 instead of shipping US troops from the States, why not have them in Britain, as historically the US troops would stop in Britain then head to France!

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:49 am

PLUS in 1918 instead of shipping US troops from the States, why not have them in Britain, as historically the US troops would stop in Britain then head to France!
I was thinking about this comment: At first I agreed with it, then thought more about it, regardless the US still would have to ship troops, "NOT" till after they entered the war.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:51 am

Well it's March 1918, and the US joined in 1917, so atleast 1 infantry should be somewhere on Britain.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:44 am

LandMarine47 wrote:Well it's March 1918, and the US joined in 1917, so atleast 1 infantry should be somewhere on Britain.
Yes, it is getting a bit late for the US. Even in MP I try not to sink too many convoys as CP (why ask for trouble), usually because the match is still in flux, and that is probably the same for a CP AI. Even the Canadians don't show in England till turn 8.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:25 am

The US should also have their own Air Force with aces. And some tanks. George Pattons career started in a US tank during WW1

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:04 pm

You are absolutely right, I completely agree with that point of view.

Read somewhere in posts, it might have on the Matrix forum, that England declared war on the USA, and forced USA to surrender rather quickly.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:30 pm

Well in my game, it was 1917 and the Germans were about to surrender, so I deployed some infantry (about 3 with some Garrisons) and I took over the entire country! My battle fleet easily sank theirs, and the US didn't have a chance!

Their tech was also matched, if not better than French and British tech

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:16 pm

Have you gone MP in CGTW? With 2000 plus posts, you are not exactly a new kid on the block.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:58 am

operating wrote:Have you gone MP in CGTW? With 2000 plus posts, you are not exactly a new kid on the block.
Only recently. These are just my observations! I stick to Panzer Corps and Battle Academy, but I have some experience with the commander games, and for my MP games, I usually stick to he historical books, I speak of Single Player, but of course if a patch were to go out , this would greatly effect MP matches. But if I can say one thing the Americans need

An Air force
Artillery
And some more production frankly

While this would greats tip the favor for the Allies, perhaps the Germans can get some more fighters should they decide to add this

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by Yote » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:15 am

A rather small, and simple, change could be to have the American garrison unit show up directly on the continent, in the same way that the Canadian corps shows up in Britain. Would probably not disrupt any game-balance and add to the game historically, as the US did send an early contingency, as well as making the US entry the tiniest bit more worthwhile since it would be an immediate reinforcement.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:28 pm

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Don't let the 5 posts fool ya. Yote is a good MP player, :wink:

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:31 pm

Don't judge a man by the number of posts, but how he fights! I know my fare share of players with 10 or 15 posts how are very good!

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:09 pm

Yote wrote:A rather small, and simple, change could be to have the American garrison unit show up directly on the continent, in the same way that the Canadian corps shows up in Britain. Would probably not disrupt any game-balance and add to the game historically, as the US did send an early contingency, as well as making the US entry the tiniest bit more worthwhile since it would be an immediate reinforcement.
Your quote is interesting: Can you support the early contingency with fact? It would be a strong argument to have an American unit (ready to deploy) present in the European Theater from April, 1917 forward, prior to that, I have doubts. In MP, the last thing you need as CP, is another enemy.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by FOARP » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:54 pm

The US army being weak is simply historical - they were totally unprepared for war, not least because of large part of the army they had was in Mexico. The tanks, guns, machine guns, and aircraft they used were all given to them by the Entente countries. It was only after the British and French defeated the last major German offensive that the Americans began to arrive in strength on the western front.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by operating » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:00 pm

FOARP wrote:The US army being weak is simply historical - they were totally unprepared for war, not least because of large part of the army they had was in Mexico. The tanks, guns, machine guns, and aircraft they used were all given to them by the Entente countries. It was only after the British and French defeated the last major German offensive that the Americans began to arrive in strength on the western front.
Did a little research on this subject: The earliest American troops arrived in Nancy, France was June 1917, at the battlefront around Oct. 1917. In game play, that could change, after all, history is rewritten with each game/match.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by Yote » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:27 pm

operating wrote:Your quote is interesting: Can you support the early contingency with fact? It would be a strong argument to have an American unit (ready to deploy) present in the European Theater from April, 1917 forward, prior to that, I have doubts. In MP, the last thing you need as CP, is another enemy.
operating wrote:Did a little research on this subject: The earliest American troops arrived in Nancy, France was June 1917, at the battlefront around Oct. 1917. In game play, that could change, after all, history is rewritten with each game/match.
You found what I was referring to. The US didn't really have what you could call a standing army at the time, but it did have some amount of trained troops and while the country began building an actual army straight after its declaration of war, those trained soldiers who volunteered were sent to Europe to help the war effort straight away; more as a morale booster than anything else.

In Commander: The Great War the US start the way with two Infantry units and one Garrison unit.
So, the idea came to me that the Garrison could pop up in the closest country on whatever side the US join, to simulate those early troops. Perhaps even on the edge of the actual country's border, away from the Fronts, to show how it took awhile before they got into the actual fighting?

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by FOARP » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:10 am

operating wrote:
FOARP wrote:The US army being weak is simply historical - they were totally unprepared for war, not least because of large part of the army they had was in Mexico. The tanks, guns, machine guns, and aircraft they used were all given to them by the Entente countries. It was only after the British and French defeated the last major German offensive that the Americans began to arrive in strength on the western front.
Did a little research on this subject: The earliest American troops arrived in Nancy, France was June 1917, at the battlefront around Oct. 1917. In game play, that could change, after all, history is rewritten with each game/match.
A single division went to the front, on a quiet sector, and this was little changed by spring 1918. Again, the US Army did not arrive on the Western Front in strength until after the German offensive had been defeated almost entirely by the efforts of the Anglo-French.

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Re: US army in 1918

Post by LandMarine47 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:34 am

Well perhaps when the Allies take enough ground, the Americans get an event upgrading their basic industry and tech by a lot! Maybe even some fighters or tanks spawn in Britain, rather than France.

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