Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:47 pm

All,

On Sunday it is 3 weeks till our next event on Dec12. So far entries are:-

David Burrows
Paddy Bray
Ray Boyles
Chris Bennett
Keith Spedding
Tom Elsworth
Trev Allen
Dene Green.

So 4 places left if there is anyone else.

Lists to me by 1st December please. Any army, any period provided it originates from a country with a Baltic Coast.


Tom

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:00 pm

All,

More thoughts about next year. Paddy and I just fought a trial battle for a round with the theme of Mounted. We used a 6*3 table and the rule that at least 75% of non general points must be mounted. Produced a great game (I shall cast a shroud over the result).

We concluded that this would make a good round and also that it would make sense to use 6*3 for all games. Any views on all this?

Proposal for themes next year might now be ECW, Arquebus, Musket and Mounted . All on 6*3 tables but still 650 points.

Tom

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by Buzz0000 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:56 pm

I guess the rationale for 6 x 3 for the 75% mounted round could make sense to allow sufficient manoeuvre room; but not sure it would work for other rounds with only 650 points; as mostly shooty armies of that points scale will be somewhat lost on the table.....David (B)

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:02 pm

I wonder if that is not a good thing? Allowing for divisional marching to have impact? The development of grand tactics? Give a role to the mounted arm that might seem to be lacking in many of our current games?

The real world was, after all, notably short of uncrossable edges then as now.

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by Buzz0000 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:41 pm

Fair point; happy to hear what others say.....

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:53 pm

Yes, thoughts everyone?

Tom

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:41 pm

Anyone else to join us on Dec 12th? Bob hopes to be able to come so let us assume I have 3 spots left.

Tom

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by madaxeman » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:15 pm

I don't play all that often, other than attendingt the odd one or two of these a year if I am lucky, so my inclination is just to play vanilla FoGR on a 6x4 if possible. It's about getting little-used figures on table occasionally, not much more.

To be honest, I'd even not be too dissappointed if we went back to the pre-amended rules!
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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by rayd » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:12 am

I like the idea of a "mounted" theme on 6 x 3 but, having just invested in a 5 x 3 mat I will be disappointed if you abandon this table size for other Oxford events.

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by TrevAllen » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:46 pm

Like the last comment I collected my 5x3 at Warfayre this week. If you go to a 6' width, why not keep to full 4' depth, and play the book as is!

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:12 pm

Thanks for comments so far. It seems that the balance thus far favours the 5 foot frontage. I certainly take the point about investment in the fancy mats. I guess Trev's point about a 4 foot depth relates to people also having fancy 6*4 mats? I understand that but the original idea of the reduced depth was a quick game. The reduced points serve the same function.

We will wait for a little more input but my own inclination is to accede to the fancy mats argument.

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by spedders » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:26 pm

I wouldn’t change from 5 x 3 650 points or 6 x 4 800 pts

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:26 pm

OK,. There seems to be a viewpoint building here.

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by TrevAllen » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:52 pm

I certainly agree its nice to use the fancy mats, and 650pts on a 5x3 is fine. I have no probs with same points or higher on a 6x4. I dont think the extra depth slows the game down much/at all, as all it does is get an extra move at the beginning (with no action), If it was causing an issue just deploy a further 6 inches in (tournament rules specific for that event).

If an event is more specifically aimed at cavalry armies then 650pts on a 6' wide table is fine by me.

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Re: Oxford Sunday FOGR tournaments for 2021

Post by tjelsworth » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:28 pm

Thanks Trev,


I have heard no contrary views. Anyone disagree with this growing majority voice?

Tom

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