Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
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Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
GODENDAG 2014
15mm ANCIENT/MEDIEVAL/RENAISSANCE DOUBLES COMPETITIONS
18th & 19th JANUARY 2014
Venue: Glen-yr-Afon Hotel, Usk, Monmouthshire, UK, NP15 1SY
Glen-yr-Afon Hotel
Field of Glory Competitions:
1) Field of Glory: Ancient/Medieval
The Hellenistic Mediterranean
The following armies are permitted.
The army must be dated between 323 BC and 200 BC. Only options permitted between 323 BC and 200 BC are permitted.
Immortal Fire
Classical Greek
Thracian
Kyrenean Greek
Early Carthaginian
Syracusan
Early Successor
Galatian
Hellenistic Greek
Lost Scrolls
Early Republican Roman
Etruscan League
(Umbrian Allies)
Italian Hill Tribes
Samnite
Campanian
Apulian, Lucanian or Bruttian
Rise of Rome
Mid-Republican Roman
Gallic
Pyrrhic
Later Carthaginian
Illyrian
Ancient Spanish
Later Macedonian
Attalid Pergamene
Numidian or Early Moorish
The list submitted must not exceed 900 points.
http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/Godendag_FoG_Rules.htm
2) Field of Glory: Renaissance
Age of Pike and Lance
As a tribute to George Gush, this theme will include any army from 1420 to 1570.
Not to exceed 900 points.
No troops with Impact Pistol can be fielded, nor any non-light troops with Musket/Musket* or Salvo.
The FOGR list must be used if available for the date of the army. Armies dated prior to the commencement of the FOGR lists must be legal under the FOGAM lists, with the following changes to make them fit the FOGR rules:
1) Points cost: All points costs are as per the FOGR rules. To facilitate the correct application of these points values, please could all armies (if possible) be submitted using Paul Freeman’s excellent spreadsheet, the latest version of which can be found on http://www.badwargamers.org.uk/ (follow the downloads link).
2) Capabilities: Lancers capability counts as Heavy Lancers if the troops are Knights, Light Lancers otherwise. Mounted Light Spear capability counts as Light Lancers. Skilled Swordsmen capability counts as Swordsmen. Offensive and Defensive Spearmen capability count as Spearmen. Longbows count as Bows. Firearms count as Bombs if the troops are using bombs (e.g. Naffatun), Arquebus if the troops are foot using handguns, Carbine if they are mounted using handgun.
3) Troop types: Knights count as Gendarmes. Cataphracts count as Cavalry. All tribal or Japanese Medium Foot count as Warriors. The Umpire’s decision will be final as to what constitutes tribal. Where guidance is needed, consult any later equivalent army in the FOGR lists and assume the same classification applies.
4) Armour: All European Protected Heavy (or Determined) Foot can be fielded as Unarmoured or Armoured. Up to a total of 2 battle groups of the Protected Medium Foot battle groups in a European army can be fielded as Armoured, the rest must be Unarmoured. Non-European Protected foot, and all Protected mounted, must be fielded as Unarmoured. The Umpire’s decision will be final as to what constitutes European. Heavily Armoured Knights are treated as Fully Armoured, whether mounted or (where permitted) dismounted. Heavily Armoured Cataphracts are treated as Heavily Armoured. Heavily Armoured foot are treated as Heavily Armoured.
5) List amendments:
i. All Drilled Average Knights specified as “mercenary” (including Burgundian Ordonnance men-at-arms) gain the option to be fielded as Superior. Armies with Drilled Superior Knights gain the option to upgrade one battle group of these to Elite.
ii. All Heavy or Determined Foot battle groups including Pikemen can be up to 16 bases in size. (Provided of course that the total bases allowed by the army list permits this). Up to 2 bases in a pike unit can have heavy weapon instead of pike. (This does not contribute to any minimum of heavy weapon bases).
iii. Swiss Heavy Foot are treated as Determined Foot, and can be Unarmoured or Armoured, Superior or Elite.
iv. Ottoman Turkish armies cannot have more than ½ of their Timariots battle groups as Superior.
v. Christian Nubian armies cannot have more than ½ of their Medium Foot (Warrior) archer battle groups as Superior.
vi. Muromachi Japanese armies can have up to ½ of their “Bushi and followers” battle groups as Superior. (Warriors).
The Umpire reserves the right to disallow any item in a list that he feels exploits a loop-hole in the above amendments. If you need clarification on any point, or you think I have missed anything in the above amendments, please contact me on rbs@byzant.demon.co.uk.
http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/Godendag_FoGR_Rules.htm
Cost: £52 per team of 2. (This includes lunch on both days – see example menu below).
CONTACT: Richard Bodley Scott, 28 Priory Gardens, Usk, Monmouthshire, NP5 1AJ (rbs@byzant.demon.co.uk)
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GODENDAG 2014
VENUE: Glen-yr-Afon Hotel, Pontypool Rd, Usk, Monmouthshire, NP15 1SY
TIME: 8.30 - 9.00 - Registration time on Saturday
Games will be:
Saturday: 9.30 - 1.00 and 2.00 - 5.30
Sunday: 9.00 - 12.30 and 1.30 - 5.00
ENTRANCE: £52 per team of 2. This includes Lunch on Saturday and Sunday.
SAMPLE BAR LUNCH MENU
Chicken curry ½ rice ½ chips
Lasagne and chips
Breaded plaice and chips
Filled baguettes: chicken tikka, BLT, ham and cranberry, beef and horseradish, cheese and tomato - all served with chips and coleslaw
Door-step sandwiches: ham and cranberry, ham salad, cheese salad, tuna mayonnaise, chicken, sweet corn and mayonnaise - all served with chips and coleslaw
Jacket potatoes: cheese and onion, baked beans, tuna and sweet corn, chicken curry, prawn mayonnaise - all served with side salad and coleslaw
Hot baps - bacon or sausage, bacon and egg, beef and onion - all serve with chips
Chilli and rice or ½ rice ½ chips
Scampi, chips and peas
CATERING & ACCOMMODATION:
The hotel will provide refreshments at competitive rates. No food or drink purchased elsewhere is to be brought into the hotel. Accommodation is available in the Glen-yr-Afon Hotel. Please make your own bookings with the hotel. If you intend to stay on Friday and Saturday nights, please book as soon as possible. Telephone 01291 672302/673202 (Fax 01291 672597).
LOCAL ATTRACTIONS:
If you are able to make a long weekend of it, there are numerous local historical attractions relevant to our period. These include the Roman Legionary Fortress and Museum at Caerleon and the Roman walled city of Caerwent. Among the many local castles, the best are Chepstow, Raglan, White Castle (at Llantilio Croesenny) and Caerphilly. Caerphilly castle has a permanent exhibition of full size working medieval siege engines including ballista, mangonel, trebuchet and perrier. The Welsh Folk Museum at St. Fagans is worth a visit. The Brecon Beacons National Park and the picturesque Wye Valley are also nearby.
CHEQUES: Payable to R. Bodley Scott
QUERIES: Richard Bodley Scott, 28, Priory Gardens, Usk, Gwent, NP5 1AJ. (rbs@byzant.demon.co.uk)
See also: http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/godendag.htm
15mm ANCIENT/MEDIEVAL/RENAISSANCE DOUBLES COMPETITIONS
18th & 19th JANUARY 2014
Venue: Glen-yr-Afon Hotel, Usk, Monmouthshire, UK, NP15 1SY
Glen-yr-Afon Hotel
Field of Glory Competitions:
1) Field of Glory: Ancient/Medieval
The Hellenistic Mediterranean
The following armies are permitted.
The army must be dated between 323 BC and 200 BC. Only options permitted between 323 BC and 200 BC are permitted.
Immortal Fire
Classical Greek
Thracian
Kyrenean Greek
Early Carthaginian
Syracusan
Early Successor
Galatian
Hellenistic Greek
Lost Scrolls
Early Republican Roman
Etruscan League
(Umbrian Allies)
Italian Hill Tribes
Samnite
Campanian
Apulian, Lucanian or Bruttian
Rise of Rome
Mid-Republican Roman
Gallic
Pyrrhic
Later Carthaginian
Illyrian
Ancient Spanish
Later Macedonian
Attalid Pergamene
Numidian or Early Moorish
The list submitted must not exceed 900 points.
http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/Godendag_FoG_Rules.htm
2) Field of Glory: Renaissance
Age of Pike and Lance
As a tribute to George Gush, this theme will include any army from 1420 to 1570.
Not to exceed 900 points.
No troops with Impact Pistol can be fielded, nor any non-light troops with Musket/Musket* or Salvo.
The FOGR list must be used if available for the date of the army. Armies dated prior to the commencement of the FOGR lists must be legal under the FOGAM lists, with the following changes to make them fit the FOGR rules:
1) Points cost: All points costs are as per the FOGR rules. To facilitate the correct application of these points values, please could all armies (if possible) be submitted using Paul Freeman’s excellent spreadsheet, the latest version of which can be found on http://www.badwargamers.org.uk/ (follow the downloads link).
2) Capabilities: Lancers capability counts as Heavy Lancers if the troops are Knights, Light Lancers otherwise. Mounted Light Spear capability counts as Light Lancers. Skilled Swordsmen capability counts as Swordsmen. Offensive and Defensive Spearmen capability count as Spearmen. Longbows count as Bows. Firearms count as Bombs if the troops are using bombs (e.g. Naffatun), Arquebus if the troops are foot using handguns, Carbine if they are mounted using handgun.
3) Troop types: Knights count as Gendarmes. Cataphracts count as Cavalry. All tribal or Japanese Medium Foot count as Warriors. The Umpire’s decision will be final as to what constitutes tribal. Where guidance is needed, consult any later equivalent army in the FOGR lists and assume the same classification applies.
4) Armour: All European Protected Heavy (or Determined) Foot can be fielded as Unarmoured or Armoured. Up to a total of 2 battle groups of the Protected Medium Foot battle groups in a European army can be fielded as Armoured, the rest must be Unarmoured. Non-European Protected foot, and all Protected mounted, must be fielded as Unarmoured. The Umpire’s decision will be final as to what constitutes European. Heavily Armoured Knights are treated as Fully Armoured, whether mounted or (where permitted) dismounted. Heavily Armoured Cataphracts are treated as Heavily Armoured. Heavily Armoured foot are treated as Heavily Armoured.
5) List amendments:
i. All Drilled Average Knights specified as “mercenary” (including Burgundian Ordonnance men-at-arms) gain the option to be fielded as Superior. Armies with Drilled Superior Knights gain the option to upgrade one battle group of these to Elite.
ii. All Heavy or Determined Foot battle groups including Pikemen can be up to 16 bases in size. (Provided of course that the total bases allowed by the army list permits this). Up to 2 bases in a pike unit can have heavy weapon instead of pike. (This does not contribute to any minimum of heavy weapon bases).
iii. Swiss Heavy Foot are treated as Determined Foot, and can be Unarmoured or Armoured, Superior or Elite.
iv. Ottoman Turkish armies cannot have more than ½ of their Timariots battle groups as Superior.
v. Christian Nubian armies cannot have more than ½ of their Medium Foot (Warrior) archer battle groups as Superior.
vi. Muromachi Japanese armies can have up to ½ of their “Bushi and followers” battle groups as Superior. (Warriors).
The Umpire reserves the right to disallow any item in a list that he feels exploits a loop-hole in the above amendments. If you need clarification on any point, or you think I have missed anything in the above amendments, please contact me on rbs@byzant.demon.co.uk.
http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/Godendag_FoGR_Rules.htm
Cost: £52 per team of 2. (This includes lunch on both days – see example menu below).
CONTACT: Richard Bodley Scott, 28 Priory Gardens, Usk, Monmouthshire, NP5 1AJ (rbs@byzant.demon.co.uk)
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GODENDAG 2014
VENUE: Glen-yr-Afon Hotel, Pontypool Rd, Usk, Monmouthshire, NP15 1SY
TIME: 8.30 - 9.00 - Registration time on Saturday
Games will be:
Saturday: 9.30 - 1.00 and 2.00 - 5.30
Sunday: 9.00 - 12.30 and 1.30 - 5.00
ENTRANCE: £52 per team of 2. This includes Lunch on Saturday and Sunday.
SAMPLE BAR LUNCH MENU
Chicken curry ½ rice ½ chips
Lasagne and chips
Breaded plaice and chips
Filled baguettes: chicken tikka, BLT, ham and cranberry, beef and horseradish, cheese and tomato - all served with chips and coleslaw
Door-step sandwiches: ham and cranberry, ham salad, cheese salad, tuna mayonnaise, chicken, sweet corn and mayonnaise - all served with chips and coleslaw
Jacket potatoes: cheese and onion, baked beans, tuna and sweet corn, chicken curry, prawn mayonnaise - all served with side salad and coleslaw
Hot baps - bacon or sausage, bacon and egg, beef and onion - all serve with chips
Chilli and rice or ½ rice ½ chips
Scampi, chips and peas
CATERING & ACCOMMODATION:
The hotel will provide refreshments at competitive rates. No food or drink purchased elsewhere is to be brought into the hotel. Accommodation is available in the Glen-yr-Afon Hotel. Please make your own bookings with the hotel. If you intend to stay on Friday and Saturday nights, please book as soon as possible. Telephone 01291 672302/673202 (Fax 01291 672597).
LOCAL ATTRACTIONS:
If you are able to make a long weekend of it, there are numerous local historical attractions relevant to our period. These include the Roman Legionary Fortress and Museum at Caerleon and the Roman walled city of Caerwent. Among the many local castles, the best are Chepstow, Raglan, White Castle (at Llantilio Croesenny) and Caerphilly. Caerphilly castle has a permanent exhibition of full size working medieval siege engines including ballista, mangonel, trebuchet and perrier. The Welsh Folk Museum at St. Fagans is worth a visit. The Brecon Beacons National Park and the picturesque Wye Valley are also nearby.
CHEQUES: Payable to R. Bodley Scott
QUERIES: Richard Bodley Scott, 28, Priory Gardens, Usk, Gwent, NP5 1AJ. (rbs@byzant.demon.co.uk)
See also: http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/godendag.htm
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
congrats on these periods... they are exciting (well to me at least ! )
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Note: Janissaries do not get the option to be Armoured. (Even if they are recruited from Europeans and stationed in Europe).
(Umpire's decision - final. Instant disqualification for anyone who looks at the umpire in a funny way).
(Umpire's decision - final. Instant disqualification for anyone who looks at the umpire in a funny way).
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
How will you handle 31 disqualifications...?
Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Richard wins his own competitiontimmy1 wrote:How will you handle 31 disqualifications...?
No one has done that yet, have they
Don
Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
I like the theme and the adjustments to the early lists. Though I do wonder if it might be more appropriate to count early firearms as pistols instead of arquebus.
Dave
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Not a bad idea.
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
That would depend how early. Simpler to treat them as arquebus - there aren't that many of them anyway.daveallen wrote:I like the theme and the adjustments to the early lists. Though I do wonder if it might be more appropriate to count early firearms as pistols instead of arquebus.
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Apart from Alasdair, of course. But he is a demi-god, so probably should be excluded from mortal tournaments.donm2 wrote:Richard wins his own competitiontimmy1 wrote:How will you handle 31 disqualifications...?
No one has done that yet, have they
After all, who would dare to win a game of tennis against the Sun King? (Yes Alasdair, it is true, we are all just letting you win ).
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
I am so glad you're all letting me win it makes me feel happy see you all at Warfarerbodleyscott wrote:Apart from Alasdair, of course. But he is a demi-god, so probably should be excluded from mortal tournaments.donm2 wrote:Richard wins his own competitiontimmy1 wrote:How will you handle 31 disqualifications...?
No one has done that yet, have they
After all, who would dare to win a game of tennis against the Sun King? (Yes Alasdair, it is true, we are all just letting you win ).
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
The price of entry (including lunches) has been determined as £52.00 per team of two.
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
looking forward to Usk.
Hopefully the snow won't be an issue this year.
Hopefully the snow won't be an issue this year.
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
looking forward to Usk.
Hopefully the snow won't be an issue this year.
Hopefully the snow won't be an issue this year.
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
3 is the charmurbanbunny1 wrote:looking forward to Usk.
Hopefully the snow won't be an issue this year.
Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
urbanbunny1 wrote:looking forward to Usk.
Hopefully the snow won't be an issue this year.
Never been a problem yet.
Excellent competition.
Don
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Can I have as many horses as I want ?
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Play nicely now
You can have as many horses as the list allows and then give half them to Paddy........As if that's ever going to happen.
see you Sunday.
Jim
You can have as many horses as the list allows and then give half them to Paddy........As if that's ever going to happen.
see you Sunday.
Jim
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Paddys with Simon for Gogendag and to be fair at doubles he had more horses than me and even worse played better with them than me
cheers
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cheers
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
Any lists in
is it looking good, I imagine with the ancients lists available the range should be massive
can't wait
Alasdair
is it looking good, I imagine with the ancients lists available the range should be massive
can't wait
Alasdair
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Re: Godendag - Usk Doubles - 18th/19th January 2014
I could not possibly comment at this stagealasdair2204 wrote:Any lists in?