A "Pacific Corps" should be made

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A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by HalfLifeExpert » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:45 pm

I know this is brought up a lot, but I think it is worth discussing more for a specific reason.

One of the commonly cited reasons as to why a "Pacific Corps" is not going to be done is because of Order Of Battle: Pacific being in existence, and concerns about infringing on it's sales and whatnot.

I don't think that is a valid reason anymore, as it is clear that OOB intends to cover the entire European War as well with its new content model, especially since the early blitzkriegs have been announced. That's fine for them. But if OOB is the reason Pacific Corps is not done than it is a clear double-standard, as OOB is freely marching into the territory of Panzer Corps.

Having tried OOB, the free steam version when they made that conversion, I didn't enjoy it. The gameplay was too clunky, and it hardly ran at all on the very same laptop that I have logged most of my 350+ hours of Panzer Corps on. It didn't even run that well on my gaming desktop that runs quite demanding games well.

I just wanted to say that if OOB is the reason for not doing a "Pacific Corps", than that is not a good reason, as OOB is doing the European War, so Panzer Corps should be allowed to do the Asia/Pacific theatre. It doesn't nessicarily have to be called Pacific Corps. I rather like the title "Panzer Corps: Marine Corps"

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by RandomAttack » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:14 am

+1! Not slamming OOB-- I bought it and just don't care for it (for reasons I have given on that forum). I too think a "Pacific Corps" is a GREAT idea that won't impact the OOB niche at all.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by BiteNibbleChomp » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:01 pm

This discussion seems to get raised quite a lot :roll: .

I think the delayed release of Soviet Corps (was going to be mid-2015, ended up early this year), shows what the devs have been saying occasionally - they don't have enough time to focus on everything, and the new product (Warhammer) is worth more focus than something that came out 5 years ago. Seems a bit like asking for more leaders to be added to Civ 5 today, even though Civ 6 is on the horizon.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by b52pilot1 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:31 pm

I agree 1000% that Panzer Corps should have a Pacific version. I've tried OOB, too, and it is a different game and is not as fun as the PanzerCorps games. I know the developers are busy, but hopefully, they are listening to the loyal customers that are begging for a Pacific Corps!

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by goose_2 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:57 pm

I am down with this
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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by proline » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:55 am

This would certainly be a lot of fun. in fact, even without Pacific Corps PzC has some great island hopping scenarios like Malta and the final battle in the Sealion campaign.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by bcnkor5 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:56 am

HalfLifeExpert wrote:I know this is brought up a lot, but I think it is worth discussing more for a specific reason.

One of the commonly cited reasons as to why a "Pacific Corps" is not going to be done is because of Order Of Battle: Pacific being in existence, and concerns about infringing on it's sales and whatnot.

I don't think that is a valid reason anymore, as it is clear that OOB intends to cover the entire European War as well with its new content model, especially since the early blitzkriegs have been announced. That's fine for them. But if OOB is the reason Pacific Corps is not done than it is a clear double-standard, as OOB is freely marching into the territory of Panzer Corps.

Having tried OOB, the free steam version when they made that conversion, I didn't enjoy it. The gameplay was too clunky, and it hardly ran at all on the very same laptop that I have logged most of my 350+ hours of Panzer Corps on. It didn't even run that well on my gaming desktop that runs quite demanding games well.

I just wanted to say that if OOB is the reason for not doing a "Pacific Corps", than that is not a good reason, as OOB is doing the European War, so Panzer Corps should be allowed to do the Asia/Pacific theatre. It doesn't nessicarily have to be called Pacific Corps. I rather like the title "Panzer Corps: Marine Corps"

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by robman » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:05 pm

+1 (or however many it is at this point). OOB has some great features, but it is clunky, visually busy, and--worst of all!--cannot be played on iPad. Resist the imperialist pretensions of Artistocrats and their petit bourgeois running dogs! We need more PzC content!

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by sn0wball » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:57 pm

As much as I liked Pacific Corps, I think the PzC naval engine needs a complete rework to make Pazific Corps are viable game. For example, strategic bombers vs. capital ships completely screws up the equation of naval combat. Also, a destinction between carrier based aircraft and land based air craft and torpedo bombers. Unless aircraft are toned down, AA of ships would need to be improved, or adjacent AA ships should be able to protect other ships. The list goes on. In the end, I doubt that the AI is up to naval combat without specific scripting.

On the other hand, one could also set the focus on smaller land based action.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by HalfLifeExpert » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:15 pm

Some reworking for the Pacific War is a given of course. The land war in China is already doable. I think most of the operations where it was an amphibious assault on an island are already doable, with some reworking needed like the Strategic bombers you mentioned. Plus, strategic bombers proved to not be very effective against warships, as shown at Midway where the B-17s didn't score a single hit on the Japanese carrier force.

The main areas that would need work are naval engagements, especially aircraft carriers. But one could focus it more on the land and amphibious battles, while relegating the navy to a support role in game, which means no Coral Sea, Midway, Santa Cruz, Philippine Sea or Leyte gulf. I am honestly OK with that, this system was build for land combat.

I am more interested in the island battles and the war in China and Southeast Asia for this sort of game. Of course there should be a few alternate scenarios, Invasion of Hawaii, northern Australia are two that come to mind for Japanese side. The two phases of Operation Downfall, Olympic and Coronet, also come to mind for the US. All of those would be really tough challenges.

I am well aware of the challenges to reworking this game for the pacific. My main reason for making this thread was to point out that OOB existing is no longer a valid or justifiable reason for not doing a "Pacific Corps" , as that game is expanding to cover the European War. (although i rather like the names "Panzer Corps: Imperial Corps" for Japan and "Panzer Corps: Marine Corps" for the US)
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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by ElDude » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:48 am

I would like to see Pacific Corp.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by bcnkor5 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:01 pm

ElDude wrote:I would like to see Pacific Corp.
Yes, +1

It would be very interesting, as it lacks address this conflict zone

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by Ballermann » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:50 pm

ElDude wrote:I would like to see Pacific Corp.
I want it, too :wink:
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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by HalfLifeExpert » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:43 pm

Plus, having Japanese forces thrown into Soviet Corps makes it all too tempting to expand on them, and have them go up against US forces....

It also would be kind of cool to add them into the "British India" scenario of Afrika Korps :D

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by terminator » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:08 pm

Panzer Corps Gold :
"Back when we released the U.S. Corps packs we told you they would be the last DLCs for the Panzer Corps series, but we never said that the path of Panzer Corps had come to an end. Millions of people enjoyed Panzer Corps in the last few years: it’s been a long and epic ride, but it’s not over yet."
So , no more DLCs :cry:

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by ElDude » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:58 am

Bummer!

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by Scholomancer » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:46 pm

terminator wrote:Panzer Corps Gold :
"Back when we released the U.S. Corps packs we told you they would be the last DLCs for the Panzer Corps series, but we never said that the path of Panzer Corps had come to an end. Millions of people enjoyed Panzer Corps in the last few years: it’s been a long and epic ride, but it’s not over yet."
So , no more DLCs :cry:
To me however, this statement tells me more about Panzer Corps II than a new DLC, or maybe a People's General. Say what you want about this game, I found it to be an excellent adaptation of the PG engine to modern warfare.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by HalfLifeExpert » Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:14 pm

For A new game, im kind of hoping for "NATO Corps". Cold War Gone Hot, plus perhaps some historical conflicts like Arab-Israeli Wars.

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by Scholomancer » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:56 pm

Yes, People's General is a fairly good take on modern units in a Panzer General Game Engine. I thought it second best of the whole General Series (after Panzer General, but before Star General and even Fantasy General.)

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Re: A "Pacific Corps" should be made

Post by RolanddeRonceveaux » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:41 pm

I'd like to see a Pacific Corps, either.

And also a "Korean Corps", but that's another story. :wink:

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