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Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:55 pm
by lhughes
I am being assigned a hero almost constantly after I modified my difficulty settings for DLC 1941. I set AI at 2, said keep original rules, kept difficulty at field marshall.
This is definitely not normal behavior. It is unbalancing the game since I am acquiring 5 or 6 heroes a turn. I am fully updated fyi.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:39 pm
by lhughes
I hope this can be resolved because I just abandoned playing the campaign I have played since 1939 because it is so unbalancing. I have a save file if slitherine would like to see. Quite out of control.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:16 pm
by Tarrak
Are you sure you haven't installed any mod or changed any settings files? I tested the DLC 1941 under patch 1.20 and i am not receiving heroes at rapid speed and the problem seems to be not common or we would have more reports here. If you don't mind upload your save file here to th boards (you got to zip it first) and i take a look at it.

Edit: Actually i take it back. Now i managed to reproduce your issue. I try to investigate the source of the problem.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:40 pm
by Tarrak
Something is definitively strange here. I have units with 241 kills receiving it's second hero while it should not be possible before 301 kills according to the settings in the coresponding gamerules.pzdat file

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Hero1KillsMin	100
Hero1KillsMax	300
Hero2KillsMin	301
Hero2KillsMax	1000
Hero3KillsMin	1001
Hero3KillsMax	2000
I guess Alex will have to take a look at it. I blindly guess it's some side effect of the bug causing the DLC's to ignore the advanced settings.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:55 pm
by Tarrak
This bug is truly strange as it seems to be not reproducible. I quit the game, started it again with exactly the same settings and now it's working fine like it did before. Something strange is going on here.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:57 pm
by VPaulus
I've already emailed Alex about the issue reported by lhughes in Matrix.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:05 pm
by Tarrak
VPaulus wrote:I've already emailed Alex about the issue reported by lhughes in Matrix.
I am afraid he will have fun hunting that one down. :P Out of 6 attempts i only managed to create that buggy situation once. It seems to be quite difficult to create it by doing some obscure way of selecting things or it's occurrence is totally random.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:26 pm
by lhughes
Thank you for reviewing so promptly. Glad I wasn't hallucinating. Do you still need a zip file of my save game of it? What email do I send it to?

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:55 pm
by Razz1
Tarrak wrote:Something is definitively strange here. I have units with 241 kills receiving it's second hero while it should not be possible before 301 kills according to the settings in the coresponding gamerules.pzdat file

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Hero1KillsMin	100
Hero1KillsMax	300
Hero2KillsMin	301
Hero2KillsMax	1000
Hero3KillsMin	1001
Hero3KillsMax	2000
I guess Alex will have to take a look at it. I blindly guess it's some side effect of the bug causing the DLC's to ignore the advanced settings.

Sounds like the presitge parameter setting may be looking at kill.

It's 400 and 800 so maybe it is looking at a 80% kill ratio and if that is correct there is a chance to reward a hero. .8 x 301 = 240.8 which it rounds up to 241. Then the AI rolls the dice for a chance to give you a hero.

Re: Overly Generous Heroes Assignment

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:15 pm
by lhughes
The problem was severe and constant in that every time I got a kill (or maybe a hit) I got a leader awarded. Pretty much seemed like 100%. Became really quite laughable. So wasn't just that I was getting a few more... I was getting *every time*. I have a save file fyi.
I have worked around by restarting from end of prior scenario and then *not fooled around with campaign settings* before starting next scenario.
So wasn't just 'rolling the dice' and getting lucky it was constant.