Announcement to all new players

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Announcement to all new players

Post by Xilmi » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:04 pm

I just wanted to inform you that we are aware about the issues a lot of our new players have with the game and take them very seriously.

As far as we can tell the main concern is with how ruthless the AI is even on the lower difficulty levels "Very Easy" and "Easy" and that this robs the player of the opportunity to dive into the game and learn how to play it.

The design-philosophy for the AI was to be a real challenge even for expert 4x-players and have it play as competative as possible by exploiting every advantage it could get. This, of course, also included the decisionmaking when it comes to diplomacy and war.

While we don't want to move away from that stance for the difficulty-levels of medium and above, we now understand, that we also have to provide an environment where new and casual players can just play and enjoy the game for what else it has to offer besides relentless competition.

That being said: We plan to release a new patch in the near future, that adjusts the behavior of the AI on the two lowest difficulty-level to one that will give our new players more breathing-room.

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by ErissN6 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:25 am

Computers are more powerfull than humans (example of chess), they must be programmed with personnalities (their flaws).
A good game AI is not the more efficient, it's what simulate the better a human (who can forget to do something, who don't know all the rules, who just don't want to bother, etc).

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by anguille » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:26 am

Interesting...first kudos for making such a good AI.

I think on average a game needs to know the rules and not make mistakes. Easy and Very easy need to be just that. I see this also in Stardrive 2....even on easy i am far behind (i can live with it) but somehow, easy and very easy miss their objectives.

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by Xilmi » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:56 am

In the meantime, as of 1.6.6, the "easy-nerfs" are in.
AI still plays as good as it can considering its maluses outside of the "foreign-relations"-part of the game. But it will go, well, easy, on the player.

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by ErissN6 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:37 am

In 1.6.6, you have forgotten to no longer give bonus to AI for the Medium difficulty,
maybe switching all other difficulties too, if the game is so though (maybe your whole work has increased the actual difficulties, which were set at the released of the game, as your AIs play better).
I used to play in 'Easy' in 1.6.5, but now there's a big gap between new Easy (I don't want to use its new modifications) and Medium (your AIs play better than me, they don't need bonuses, as I don't touch the 50% taxes).

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by Tanaka » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:05 am

Ok so which level has no cheats and no bonuses to the AI now while playing to full potential?

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by Tanaka » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:27 am

Has 1.6.6 been released? I cannot seem to get my game to update past 1.6.5?

And I get this error if I download new update and paste into folder and try to run?

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PandoraServer.exe - System Error
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The program can't start because libcurl.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.
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OK
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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by Tanaka » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:32 am

Ok I see now I was trying to update with the Beta version...

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by Xilmi » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:59 am

Tanaka wrote:Ok so which level has no cheats and no bonuses to the AI now while playing to full potential?
Medium.
Only the levels below it were changed in 1.6.6 to not drive beginners away immediately.
Medium and above have no behavioural restrictions.

If the Devs should decide to adapt my difficulty-level-name-changes this will be called "Expert" in the future. ^^

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by ErissN6 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:49 pm

Xilmi wrote:
Tanaka wrote:Ok so which level has no cheats and no bonuses to the AI now while playing to full potential?
Medium.
Only the levels below it were changed in 1.6.6 to not drive beginners away immediately.
Medium and above have no behavioural restrictions.
If the Devs should decide to adapt my difficulty-level-name-changes this will be called "Expert" in the future. ^^
Good, so the new Medium difficulty tooltip was not translated in French version, as it still says the AI has bonuses.

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Re: Announcement to all new players

Post by Xilmi » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:32 am

I noticed that it was still wrong for all languages except english. I've fixed it for the others for 1.6.7 but despite having a "Proxy Studios"-Avatar now, doesn't mean I'm actually a member of them and could trigger a new patch-release by myself. ^^

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