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Bit fuzzy on this...

Post by gravyface » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:06 pm

and have just started playing this game again in over a year, but didn't Armour use 4 Oil per turn? Right now, with GS 1.06, I'm seeing 2. Is this part of the mod or am losing it? :?

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Post by Peter Stauffenberg » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:51 pm

Armor units start with 2, but get oil increases with improved tech (armor will increase 2 levels and
blitzkrieg plus antitank one level each). So in GS v1.06 you will see that the Pz II's will use 2 oil
while the heave King Tiger II's or Maus'es will use 6 oil. Pz III's will probably use 3 oil, Pz IV's and
Tigers will use 4 oil while Panthers will use 5 oil.

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Post by Rhialto » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:29 am

I was curious about this steep increase in fuel cost with improved tank technology. I can see King Tigers using a lot more fuel, but I was surprised that the more sophisticated Panther would use more than twice the fuel of a PzII. Particularly it seems that the Panther should not use more fuel than the heavier Tiger, as it substituted sloping armor for thickness/weight and gained more mobility. I found this table:

Year Types Of Tanks In A Division Tons Of Fuel Consumed Per 100 Miles
1941 PzII, PzIII, PzIV, Pz38 22.1
1942 PzIII, PzIV 23.7
1943 PzIII, PzIV, Panther, Tiger 31.7
1944 PzIV, Panther, Tiger 35.8

Source:
http://www.world-war-2.info/statistics/

If this is true, and Pz II and Pz III use 2 oil, then Pz IV might use 3 and Panther/Tiger would use 4 at the most. 5 seems harsh for the Panther.

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Post by Peter Stauffenberg » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:51 am

In GS v2.0 the max consumption of armor is 5 (not 6). So panther's / tiger's use 4. :) King tiger's and Maus'es use 5. Pz IV use 3. Pz III use 2 or 3.

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Post by Rhialto » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:03 pm

Oh, cool. I am sure Guderian will be happy.....

Stauffenberg wrote:In GS v2.0 the max consumption of armor is 5 (not 6). So panther's / tiger's use 4. :) King tiger's and Maus'es use 5. Pz IV use 3. Pz III use 2 or 3.

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Post by AdmiralSarek » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:37 am

Stauffenberg wrote:In GS v2.0 the max consumption of armor is 5 (not 6). So panther's / tiger's use 4. :) King tiger's and Maus'es use 5. Pz IV use 3. Pz III use 2 or 3.
yes, but don't you have to double this?, one for the tanks move and again for the attack (unless of course you don't need to move).
so to move and attack a panther unit uses 10 oil?

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Post by Plaid » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:37 am

Yes, it will cost 10 oil, but by the time you will get ultimate tanks you will either be winning or you will have not so many of them left :)

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