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Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:46 am
by Robotron
@onpp: so that would be the Senussi uprising event. Multiplayer or Singleplayer (you were unclear about whether that event happened in you MP game)?

Those units start with 5/10 unit strength and Britain clearly has options to prepare in time for the event by deploying Army Corps transporters in the Red Sea during 1914.

However, theoretically as of V9.1 the amount of units is still open to reload-abuse and the amount of Senussi Army Corps you mentioned would need a rather low-odd chance to occur.

I don't want to hint at anything here but I will see what I can do about that event.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:14 am
by onpp
Yes it is a MP game with Argentum. Units strength was 5 when arriving. Thank you for considering it. :)

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:32 am
by Robotron
@onpp: I assume you are still playing with V9.02 or earlier so be careful not to play any events that will spawn units in LOS of the enemy.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:15 pm
by Robotron
During the last days I've been playing several MP matches and something struck me as being weird:

- during all my games with Entente, Entente started the game with 6 diplo points (chance is about 10% for this to happen)

- CP players were always able to choose "Schlieffen" on turn 1

- capturing Antwerp always led to the "Kaiser celebrates" event (the one where CP gets a free general) the chance for this is 12,5% and each time German general "Rupprecht" was awarded, further reducing the chance for this exact outcome to about 5%.

- winter always came early in turn 12 (late November), chance is 17%

So either this must be a rather unlikely repeat of low-odd chances or the randomizer in MP is even more broken than in SP.
I suspect that the randomizer parts of the scripts after getting processed by Slitherene's servers are broken but I'm not sure.

If you guys could have an eye upon the outcome of the aforementioned events in your MP matches it would be very helpful.
I hope it's just plain "luck" because if the randomizer in MP is not working correctly this would mean that this mod is partly broken.

We've had this problem before in SP when everytime "Ultimatum to Serbia" was selected, then Serbia would surrender and the music on the title screen was always the same. This was fixed however, but there might be a chance that the fix is not working in MP for reasons yet unknown.

I sincerely hope all this is just plain coincidence.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:16 am
by Zombo
I you want we can run a dummy MP game and speed through the turns ( and leaving Antwerp open to capture) just to check.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:54 am
by Robotron
@Zombo: I ran some tests with cocolo yesterday with me hosting 2 PotzBlitz dummy matches as CP.
We compared the starting diplo points and events and then I just surrendered those test games.

Now I'd like you to host 2-3 PotzBlitz test matches as CP and note down the amount of diplo points and the starting events. Then just click end turn.
I'll do likewise with Entente.
At the start of turn 2 just surrender each test game.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:50 pm
by Argentum
Robotron wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:15 pm
During the last days I've been playing several MP matches and something struck me as being weird:

- CP players were always able to choose "Schlieffen" on turn 1

- capturing Antwerp always led to the "Kaiser celebrates" event (the one where CP gets a free general) the chance for this is 12,5% and each time German general "Rupprecht" was awarded, further reducing the chance for this exact outcome to about 5%.

- winter always came early in turn 12 (late November), chance is 17%
My game with onnp. About 6 points for Entente i don't know because played as CP.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:37 pm
by Robotron
If Zombo does not reply can somebody else please open at least 2 (so we can compare) PotzBlitz dummy matches as CP?

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:50 am
by Zombo
I'll do it

You mean hosting MP games, right?

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:22 am
by Robotron
@Zombo: yes, I'd like you to host 2-3 PotzBlitz test matches with you as CP and note down the amount of diplo points and the starting events at turn 1.

Then just click end turn.

I'll do likewise with Entente once I've joined your test matches.

At the start of turn 2 just surrender each test game.

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:38 pm
by Zombo
done (first one is password verdun)

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:05 pm
by Robotron
Game 1: 6 diplo
Game 2: 5 diplo

and different events.

Well, so luckily my notion was wrong.

Thank you for your cooperation, Zombo. :)

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:09 pm
by Zombo
Game 1: 7 diplo
Game 2: 7 diplo

and different events

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:26 am
by Robotron
Double seven...well, that's slightly odd again. CP start with 1D6+3 diplo so getting 7 diplo twice in a row is rather unlikely.

Maybe recheck again a last time, but with 3 dummys?

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:55 am
by Zombo
ok

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:33 am
by Zombo
done

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:08 am
by Robotron
@Zombo: when you check the matches please use the following procedure this time for each match:

1. start CTGW
2. start turn 1
3. check diplo & events
4. end turn
5. quit CTGW

This is to ensure that the random number seed gets reset each time

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:49 am
by Zombo
diplo: 1st 7, 2nd 7, 3rd 9

all different combinations of events

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:51 am
by Zombo
Am I forgiven now? ;-)

will you grant me a rematch? I'll play more slowly but I promise I'll be more of a challenge

Re: POTZBLITZ V9.1 MAR30th 2019

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:26 am
by Robotron
I got 6/6/5...still too high on average for 2D3 (Entente).

@Zombo: you did follow the procedure I posted at 10:08, right?

As for another match I will have to upload V9.11 first with all the insights I got from my match vs cocolo.