Decrementing unit strength after combat

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Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by MrJamesEMcBride » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:12 am

Is it a rather recent change that decrements unit strength after combat BEFORE any shots are fired for the combat? I swear that I remember that it used to be that units would combat, we would hear and see the booms and bangs, and THEN the strength points would be decremented.

As it is now, I tell my unit to go into combat with the enemy, and the strength points are taken away immediately (even if, afterward, we see the little '-' sign appear above the combat with the strength loss).

If that IS a change that was made, what was the thought behind it? I am sure that if I look at it in the correct context, it may make sense to me. Right now, it just seems disconcerting to me.

Thanks in advance for the help!

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by terminator » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 am

I also noted this, we know the result in advance, there is no surprise that in the end of the fight :shock:
It’s like at school when you return a school assignment and you know the note in advance, it’s no longer worth rereading the copy :(

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by Erik2 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:00 am

I believe there's been a combat prediction from day one.
But it should not take into account hidden AT-support for example.
Do you mean that the predictions now are absolute?

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by jeannot le lapin » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:55 pm

No, during a fight, the final result, that is to say the strength of the units after the fight, appears first and then comes the animation of the fight :shock:

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by MrJamesEMcBride » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:21 pm

Hello Erik,
I am not saying that the prediction is absolute, at least I have not noticed that.. I take it, by prediction, you mean the prediction that is given when you mouse over the enemy unit? No, what I am saying is that when you commit to a combat by clicking on the enemy unit, the strength points for each unit are immediately decremented and THEN you hear the gunfire sounds and the animation is displayed.

This, of course, is, by no means, a 'game breaking flaw', but it just doesnt seem to fit right.

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by jeannot le lapin » Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:00 pm

Yes, actually decrementing unit strength BEFORE combat and it should be AFTER combat :!:

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by GabeKnight » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:31 am

Try unchecking the "instantly show strength loss..." box under options/preferences.

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by jeannot le lapin » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:07 am

GabeKnight wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:31 am
Try unchecking the "instantly show strength loss..." box under options/preferences.
This option is not (and has never been) checked:

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by bebro » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:30 am

I did some tests and could not reproduce the prob. Losses were subtracted only after combat was actually initiated.

Does anybody have a savegame with this happening?

Also was it happening after a fresh game-start or reload, or was there laggy gameplay around this?

edit: also, if you had it, which version/platform was it.

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by MrJamesEMcBride » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:14 pm

Thank you, GabeKnight, for that info. I was just playing a game, and I changed that setting mid-game, and the points are being decremented AFTER the combat takes place. I will try my next game with that setting on from the outset and see what happens. I didnt even know that setting was there (and I should have checked before posting here!!) That is an interesting setting to have.

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Re: Decrementing unit strength after combat

Post by prestidigitation » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:12 pm

I prefer it toggled to on, it's just nice to know immediately. I also have the animation speed cranked all the way up.

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