43-45 german units wish list

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by SirAllan » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:06 am

Thx Terminator :)
But it should have been avaible from late 42 to late sept 44 and not first at mit june 44 :shock:
Thats why I didnt saw in the Kursk scenario :cry:

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by terminator » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:31 pm

SirAllan wrote:Thx Terminator :)
But it should have been avaible from late 42 to late sept 44 and not first at mit june 44 :shock:
Thats why I didnt saw in the Kursk scenario :cry:
I hope to see this « Panzerknacker » (Henschel Hs 129) going into action soon :!:
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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by CoolDTA » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:34 pm

Now I wonder what are those Hs 129s firing at in the lower picture... The A-40 perhaps? ;)

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by Erik2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:52 am

Panzerwerfer 42
Brummbär (or is this the same as the Sturmpanzer IV?)

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:20 am

No Erik, brummbar is based on tiger I chassis, sturmpanzer IV on Pz IV chassis

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by CoolDTA » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:02 am

Actually Sturmpanzer IV is Brummbär. The vehicle GUNDOBALDO08 is referring to is Sturmtiger (38 cm RW 61 auf Sturmmörser Tiger, Tiger-Mörser).

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:13 am

CoolDTA you’re right, I confused, but so I wish sturmtiger too ;)

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by CoolDTA » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:32 am

It certainly should be there. Btw., I think the confusion was because one of the many names of Sturmtiger is Sturmpanzer VI. :)

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by Juansana » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 am

Anti-Air switch to Earth Battle, from the beginning. 8.8 cm Anti air switch to artillery... and finally show the complete map
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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by Mojko » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am

GUNDOBALDO08 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:20 am
No Erik, brummbar is based on tiger I chassis, sturmpanzer IV on Pz IV chassis
Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by CoolDTA » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:38 pm

Mojko wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am
Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
Good catch! Brummbär is op in OoB and that would explain it: apparently also the devs have mixed up Brummbär and Sturmtiger. Unit Navigator - always useful. :)

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by ubcbeer » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:56 am

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Sd.Kfz. 251/9 - Schützenpanzerwagen (7.5 cm KwK37)-RECON class
Sd.Kfz. 251/17 - Schützenpanzerwagen (2 cm). Anti-aircraft vehicle armed with a 2 cm KwK38- AA class
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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by GabeKnight » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:40 pm

CoolDTA wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:38 pm
Mojko wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am
Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
Good catch! Brummbär is op in OoB and that would explain it: apparently also the devs have mixed up Brummbär and Sturmtiger. Unit Navigator - always useful. :)
Sorry, but that's a topic I can't just follow right... But I'm curious about the technicality: Are the stats or just the name that's wrong with that unit in OoB?

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by terminator » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:57 pm

GabeKnight wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:40 pm
CoolDTA wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:38 pm
Mojko wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am
Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
Good catch! Brummbär is op in OoB and that would explain it: apparently also the devs have mixed up Brummbär and Sturmtiger. Unit Navigator - always useful. :)
Sorry, but that's a topic I can't just follow right... But I'm curious about the technicality: Are the stats or just the name that's wrong with that unit in OoB?
In PanzerCorps, the Brummbär has the same values of defense (Ground Def. = 16) as the Panzer IVH.
In OoB, Pz IVH :
- defense against vehicles = 15
- defense against infantry = 18
I think that these values would be better adapted for the Brummbär.

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by CoolDTA » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:02 pm

Terminator nailed it. In addition the faulty way to put Brummbär (and other assault guns) into the tank class makes it even more op. This is handled much better in PzC and all other similar games. Only in OoB it is incorrectly a tank. :roll:

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:15 pm

Maybe Devs put assault guns in tank rooster because in antitank they put only vehicles with antitank capacity. It could be an idea ti create an apposite assault gun rooster...

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by terminator » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:07 pm

Another problem with the Brummbär is that the unit traits show that the Brummbär can switch with Anti-Tank Mode and in reality the Brummbär can switch with Tank Mode :

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Post by Admiral_Horthy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:23 am

Because Anti-tank-Artillery mode Switch was used without making it a separate trait command. Same when I abused weapon switch (mortar for infantry) for cavalry high-risk charge, and is displayed as mortar barrage.

I think this tank switching makes no sense. Back in the early Pacific "era" all the jap arty had AT-mode. I think they still have... ? Well most is not all german (and soviet) artillery used cumulative (HEAT) rounds for direct fire self defense.

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