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Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:58 pm
by Shards
Hi,

So, I know that many of you already update the variables.txt to increase the game zoom levels.

If we were to increase them by default, what would be your suggested values and why?

Thanks

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:20 pm
by Erik2
Quick test to maximize the use of my 4k monitor :wink:
Min zoom is nice for getting an overview on large maps.
Max zoom just to admire the quality of the graphics.
Granted, these values are a bit extreme (I had to reduce the resolution of the files to 80% to be able make them fit here).

defaultMinZoom = 10
defaultMaxZoom = 100

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Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:37 pm
by Shards
Heh, yes, for you ninja rigs, bigger would seem to be better ;)

Anyone on a somewhat less hot machine tried changing their settings?

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:45 pm
by Navman2854
Shards wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:37 pm
Heh, yes, for you ninja rigs, bigger would seem to be better ;)

Anyone on a somewhat less hot machine tried changing their settings?

I also use the 10 min and 100 max. I'd like for those to be the default because it's a pain to have to reset them after an update. However, majority would rule of course.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:57 pm
by bru888
I use this:
defaultMinZoom = 20
defaultMaxZoom = 200

but I am out of step on both counts. Here, 20 is close enough for me but other players probably prefer 10:

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whereas I like seeing the entire map if I wish, even the largest ones. This is a medium-sized map at 200 (1920 x 1080 screen):

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and this is the same map that I estimate would be at 100 but again, when I look at the largest map, I want to be able to zoom all the way out and see it all which is why I use 200:

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So the consensus may be building for 10 and 100.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:11 pm
by Shards
My current thinking is 20 / 80, because someone has to think of the people with old graphics chips :-)

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:21 pm
by GabeKnight
bru888 wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:57 pm
So the consensus may be building for 10 and 100.
Agree.

Personally I'm using max=7 (on my rig that's really the max. setting before screen tearing occurs) and I need that to check the models and textures. Zooming out is useful with larger maps, to see deployment hexes and such.
But I'd suggest to keep the "default" zoom levels the way they are now.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:31 am
by Navman2854
Shards wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:11 pm
My current thinking is 20 / 80, because someone has to think of the people with old graphics chips :-)
Not a bad idea :idea:

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:07 am
by Juansana
I would wish that no matter how large or small the zoom is, the bottom edge of the map is completely visible and not hidden by the interface.
Otherwise I would find the values of bru888 with min 20 and max 200 ok

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:47 am
by Shards
Juansana wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:07 am
I would wish that no matter how large or small the zoom is, the bottom edge of the map is completely visible and not hidden by the interface.
Otherwise I would find the values of bru888 with min 20 and max 200 ok
Yep, I've got a request in to address this

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:30 pm
by GabeKnight
Shards wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:47 am
Juansana wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:07 am
I would wish that no matter how large or small the zoom is, the bottom edge of the map is completely visible and not hidden by the interface.
Yep, I've got a request in to address this
Thanks!
And how about some hotkey to toggle UI visibility on/off? I know there's a cheatcode for that, but a hotkey would be better/easier.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:59 am
by Juansana
GabeKnight wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:30 pm
Juansana wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:07 am
I would wish that no matter how large or small the zoom is, the bottom edge of the map is completely visible and not hidden by the interface.
Thanks!
And how about some hotkey to toggle UI visibility on/off? I know there's a cheatcode for that, but a hotkey would be better/easier.
A permanently visible on/off switch for the UI would be very helpful.
Can you tell me which cheat code would result in the on/off switch?

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:16 pm
by bru888
Juansana wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:59 am
A permanently visible on/off switch for the UI would be very helpful.
Can you tell me which cheat code would result in the on/off switch?
#videomode on/off
Hides/reveals bottom control panel.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:17 pm
by bru888
Getting back to the zoom level, extra capacity to zoom out helps with that immovable control panel problem to see the lower portions of the map. Now that the GUI is updated, designers would be well-advised to come up with that toggle control panel up/down switch.

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Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:45 am
by Juansana
bru888 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:16 pm
Juansana wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:59 am
A permanently visible on/off switch for the UI would be very helpful.
Can you tell me which cheat code would result in the on/off switch?
#videomode on/off
Hides/reveals bottom control panel.
That doesn't work for me.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:26 am
by terminator
bru888 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:16 pm
Juansana wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:59 am
A permanently visible on/off switch for the UI would be very helpful.
Can you tell me which cheat code would result in the on/off switch?
#videomode on/off
Hides/reveals bottom control panel.
The videomode function only effect is to disable part of the UI (8.4.1) :(

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Such a function would be interesting when playing with a screen 15.6" :idea:

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:41 am
by bru888
Works for me but I'm still in 8.3.0 and I bet you guys are on 8.4.1. Shards, if you please, another item to fix one way or the other; i.e., restore cheat code or install control panel toggle switch.

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Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:08 am
by Juansana
Yeah, Bru, that's what it seems to be. Of course I installed it immediately after the release of version 8.4.1. Too bad that there are so many bugs in the system

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:04 pm
by Shards
Added videomode to the backlog.

Y'all could have found these in the beta ;-)

Anyway, the next patch will have a fix for being able to pan the camera down low enough to see around the UI.

Re: Max Zoom level

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:27 pm
by GabeKnight
Was it mentioned somewhere that the scen editor doesn't scale as the rest of the game?