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Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:01 pm
by terminator
04_Sevastopol (7.1.8 ):

1.These two infantry units will never land :

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2.Secondary Objective "Keep 5 Romanians units alive":

A counter could be useful, I never knew how many Romanian units I had at the start :

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3.Harbor or not harbor ?

It looks a lot like a harbor but it’s not a harbor, it’s only decoration. I got screwed, couldn’t fix my boat :(

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Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:39 am
by Horst
You can see in the terrain.csv files that only settlement types got the embarkable terrain trait. If map designers don't choose any settlement underneath the depot-deco, these ports won't work next to them.

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:16 pm
by bebro
terminator wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:01 pm
04_Sevastopol :

1.These two infantry units will never land :
Is this the lowest difficulty? Hard to say since everything Soviet is low str, but not this str 9 supply ship. Thing is that in the lower diffs the AI seems to be extra-reluctant in certain cases. I seem to remember them landing on normal diff, albeit sometimes it took them a while. I have to check this again to be sure tho.

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:11 pm
by terminator
bebro wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:16 pm
terminator wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:01 pm
04_Sevastopol :

1.These two infantry units will never land :
Is this the lowest difficulty? Hard to say since everything Soviet is low str, but not this str 9 supply ship. Thing is that in the lower diffs the AI seems to be extra-reluctant in certain cases. I seem to remember them landing on normal diff, albeit sometimes it took them a while. I have to check this again to be sure tho.
I usually play at average difficulty level (Difficulty III. Major). The Soviet transport ships were attacked by my planes, which explains their strength below 10. You can see from the screenshot that after 22 turns, the Soviet transport ships have still not managed to disembark the infantry units and Sevastopol is about to be conquered by the Germans.

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:28 am
by terminator
05_Voronezh, Witch Hunt Bug (7.1.8 ) :

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Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:26 pm
by terminator
07_Caucasus : Early Victory Bug :

Turn 28/34 : All Secondary Objectives completed and the Primary Objective completed but not validated :?:

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Why ? Because it is impossible for me to complete the Secondary Objective "Shoot down the Night Witches" :

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The Secondary Objective "Shoot down the Night Witches" is disable for me :

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Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:46 pm
by Horst
It's complicated with this lingering night-witches hunting over more than one scenario.
Either this particular objective is ignored from Early Victory, or you have to create two EV-triggers with different NW campaign variable settings.
I try the second method but won' t test it in a long while. I'm currently testing all these Winter War fixes.

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:53 pm
by terminator
Horst wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:46 pm
It's complicated with this lingering night-witches hunting over more than one scenario.
Either this particular objective is ignored from Early Victory, or you have to create two EV-triggers with different NW campaign variable settings.
I try the second method but won' t test it in a long while. I'm currently testing all these Winter War fixes.
I think creating 2 Early Victory triggers with different NW campaign variable settings would be a simple solution.

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:18 pm
by Horst
That should hopefully work:
Removed the NW-objective and added the campaign variable check to complete the primary.
It's a pity that the game does only support AND and not also OR operators as conditions.
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Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:11 pm
by terminator
I just realized that there may be a similar problem with this other secondary objective that was not activated in my case ?

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Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:27 pm
by Horst
Some OOB scenarios are truly too complex that someone gets lost in all the triggers. I remember that half of the Panzer Corps scenarios had no script at all but only general AI unit behaviors. Maybe OOB should do the same to double the sales? :P
I think I'm going to replace this "Destroy 6 Soviet air units" condition with a simple Check Commander available condition.
That should still work with only one EV-trigger. If you already started the scenario with Barkhorn, then this condition is always done, no matter if the air units objective is enabled or not.
If he's not unlocked yet, then this condition can also complete the EV the moment you unlock him together with "Destroy 6 Soviet air units" objective enabled and completed.

I was wrong in my last post, as you can do the same method with the campaign variable: instead of checking about the NW-objective to be completed, you replace this with the campaign variable check. Either you already start the scenario with the variable set to 1, or you set it later during the scenario by the kill. The campaign variable is also set by the kill there to 1.
Early Victory trigger should include only following conditions:
1. Check Turn > 25
2. Complete Oil Pump objective
3. Check VP Count Primary = 3
4. Check Campaign Variable "night_witches_killed" = 1
5. Check Commander Barkhorn available

I'd also change the Trigger Event to "Turn Start" for less check-spamming as scenarios are only over on turn starts. I hope that's all with this scenario...

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:47 am
by terminator
Horst wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:27 pm
I think I'm going to replace this "Destroy 6 Soviet air units" condition with a simple Check Commander available condition.
That should still work with only one EV-trigger. If you already started the scenario with Barkhorn, then this condition is always done, no matter if the air units objective is enabled or not.
If he's not unlocked yet, then this condition can also complete the EV the moment you unlock him together with "Destroy 6 Soviet air units" objective enabled and completed.

I was wrong in my last post, as you can do the same method with the campaign variable: instead of checking about the NW-objective to be completed, you replace this with the campaign variable check. Either you already start the scenario with the variable set to 1, or you set it later during the scenario by the kill. The campaign variable is also set by the kill there to 1.
Early Victory trigger should include only following conditions:
1. Check Turn > 25
2. Complete Oil Pump objective
3. Check VP Count Primary = 3
4. Check Campaign Variable "night_witches_killed" = 1
5. Check Commander Barkhorn available

I'd also change the Trigger Event to "Turn Start" for less check-spamming as scenarios are only over on turn starts. I hope that's all with this scenario...
I approve your solution :idea:

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:12 am
by terminator
09_Winterstorm :

Is the Link Specific Hex correct for the Secondary Objective "Resupply Stalingrad by air" :?:

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Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:13 pm
by Horst
09_Winterstorm: the mission hex-marker is not correct, as you have to fly within 1 hex distance to the airfield with supply planes.

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:41 pm
by terminator
Horst wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:13 pm
09_Winterstorm: the mission hex-marker is not correct, as you have to fly within 1 hex distance to the airfield with supply planes.
Thank you for the confirmation :D

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:31 pm
by terminator
terminator wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:28 am
05_Voronezh, Witch Hunt Bug (7.1.8 ) :
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Reported in Bug Database -> Bug #4641

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:24 pm
by terminator
terminator wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:12 am
09_Winterstorm :
Is the Link Specific Hex correct for the Secondary Objective "Resupply Stalingrad by air" :?:
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Reported in Bug Database -> Bug #4684

Re: Panzerkrieg, improvement suggestions

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:51 pm
by terminator
terminator wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:26 pm
07_Caucasus : Early Victory Bug :
Reported in Bug Database -> Bug #4685
(Description: The Secondary Objective "Shoot down the Night Witches" is disabled if the variable campaign "night_witches_killed"=1 and the Secondary Objective "Destroy 6 Soviet air units" will not be activated if the Commander Gerhard Barkhorn is unlocked. This makes it impossible to validate the trigger "Early Victoy".
It is a bit complicated to explain, the best is to read the corresponding posts [...])