CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:59 am

Etna Line South v. 1.0

This primary objective trigger is going to be trouble because you have the event as Capture VP at the end of the scenario, which is unlikely. It should be Turn Start:

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Now for the secondary objectives:

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They should all stipulate how many turns are required. Moreover, every objective trigger has the same problem as we encountered before in that "<" should be ">" AND they should be activated at Turn Start, not Capture VP event:

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To be continued . . .
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by Erik2 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:43 pm

I could publish a book with all these comments :D
Thanks, Bru.


There's something odd with the old Crete scenarios, they definately had nations linked to the unit destroyed objectives.
Something must have happened in the transition to the new campaign. Oh well :roll:

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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:10 pm

Erik2 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:43 pm
I could publish a book with all these comments :D
Thanks, Bru.
My pleasure. I know there is a lot here. Some of it would never be discovered if not brought forth in this manner, and some of that might just make your work even more enjoyable. Enough to justify the time spent, I believe.

I have been going through the official DLC in a similar manner; I'm about half-way through their stuff. I can tell you that there is a lot over there, too. Things that will never get reported because the average game player will not notice its absence or defectiveness, such as an additional objective never appearing because the trigger that would have revealed it is faulty. All sorts of things. It's a shame, really.

If you will spend the time, so will I. You have always shown yourself to be willing in that regard.
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:17 am

Messina v. 1.0

So, that said, I was surprised to see this scenario so obviously "not ready for prime time." None of the land units are assigned to AI teams. My guess is, nobody has noticed this because nobody has played this campaign to this point so far. It's rather obvious that the Allied units just sit there, doing nothing:

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When you have the chance to bring this scenario "up to code," here are some other things to address:
  • The trigger for "Keep at least 18 ground units alive" should be set for Turn Start.
  • You need to flip the "<" to ">" on the "Defend . . . for X turns" objective triggers.
  • The "Add Specialisation Points" for Germany is duplicated in the "Ger Guidomandri Marina" trigger.
  • You have Check Turn conditions on the "Raid . . ." objective triggers. Intentional? As it is, you have them set for raiding in five turns or less.
  • The reward for these "Raid . . ." objectives is "Deploy Waffen SS forces" but Waffen SS is listed as neutral on the Alliances tab.
  • None of the British ships spawned by the "Royal Navy t2" trigger is assigned to an AI team.
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:48 am

Salerno Landing v. 1.0

The link to the objective is missing here:

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Other considerations:
  • The objective says "Hold at least 3 primary objectives" while the briefing says "you should at least hold on to 4 Victory Hexes."
  • The reward for the "Raid . . ." objectives is "Deploy a Waffen SS unit" but Waffen SS is listed as neutral on the Alliances tab.
  • Triggers "Sea C1" and "Sea SW1" have no Target Hex assigned to the "Check Unit(s) near Hex" condition.
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:14 am

Salerno Counter-Attack v. 1.0

Orphan:

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Other considerations:
  • When you say "Hold at least 12 objectives at scenario end," I see that it's out of a maximum of 14 primary VPs. You might as well point to all 14 by including Salerno and Serre with the hexes linked to the objective.
  • For the "Destroy US supply dumps" objective, correct this typo: "A destroyed fuel depot will remove the supply in the hex."
  • Unless you are intending an early victory or defeat, both primary objective triggers are missing a Check Turn / Scenario turn limit condition. The Trigger Event should then be Turn Start.
  • The Unit Definition for the "Supply destroyed" trigger should be Fuel Depot, not Radar Station.
  • The "Sink the US carrier" objective is off to begin the scenario and I don't see any provision for enabling this objective.
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:35 am

Catanzaro v. 1.0

You aced this one! Makes up for the Messina debacle. (Although this is the simplest scenario in the campaign so far. :wink: )

Just one question and one suggestion about Italy changing sides.

Question: What does happen to "any Italian units that are part of your core"? Italy is definitely listed as one of the human's enemies in this scenario, so how can the human be permitted to continue to use his Italian core units? (That's two questions, I know.)

Suggestion: Your WW2 knowledge surpasses mine, so I don't know how passive were its military units when Italy changed sides. You have their AI team set to Idle, meaning they will be merely roadblocks in this scenario. If you intend for them to at least defend themselves, I would set them to Static Defense.

Too bad there is no "Free Italy" faction like there is for "Free France."
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:08 am

Taranto v. 1.0

I believe this should be set for ">2":

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You may want to specify the Nation instead of the Alliance because these Italian tanks will count toward the "Destroy at least 2 British tank units objective:

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Other considerations:
  • The same questions about Italian core units and Italy switching sides apply to this scenario.
  • Given what is said in the briefing, I would expect the Regia Marina to attempt to escape at some point in the scenario rather than sitting idle in port, awaiting destruction. If so, perhaps delay the Do 217K bombers; spawn them later instead.
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:28 am

Volturno v. 1.0

Three orphaned US warships:

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That wraps up my CSI Sweep of Germany West 41-43. This looks like it will be a very enjoyable campaign once it's been scrubbed up a bit. I'm looking forward to playing it myself.

The two biggest potential stumbling blocks: All core factions must be in all scenarios to avoid a "Strat Map" crash, and what actually does happen when a core faction changes sides from one scenario to the next?
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by Erik2 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:37 pm

bru888 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:33 am
By invitation from Erik.

I know that some message blurbs are left intentionally longer than the space allowed (in hopes of some future enhancement like a scroll bar) but this campaign tree junction is crucial so it might be best to eliminate the paragraph break here so as to make clear that there are three choices for invading Crete: Maleme, Iraklio, or Rethimnon:


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It is not always easy to work with the campaign editor.
You would think that the event shows the txt as it will display in the game.
Are we really supposed to count the number of characters... :roll:
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:13 pm

Erik2 wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:37 pm
Are we really supposed to count the number of characters... :roll:
Well, according to Bru's "Popup Message 350 Character Rule" (patent pending), it's actually not hard if you keep that parameter in mind and use the Text Statistics feature of an advanced text editor program. But of course, extra and extraneous paragraph breaks also take up room . . .
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by Duplex » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:16 pm

What I'm surprised about is the SPEED at which Erik can put out scenarios. It's incredible. He sits down for a bit and BAM, campaign with 200 scenarios. How???
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:22 pm

Duplex wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:16 pm
What I'm surprised about is the SPEED at which Erik can put out scenarios. It's incredible. He sits down for a bit and BAM, campaign with 200 scenarios. How???
Well, he is good at what he does, no doubt. But he has explained in the past that somehow he is transporting mods from Panzer Corps to OOB, saving him time in making maps, selecting and placing units, etc. In this manner, he can do a campaign in the time that it takes you and me to do a single scenario from scratch.

That said, he has a lot on his plate to maintain. So, Erik, I will hold off on the next CSI Sweep until I see that you have had time to address this campaign.
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by Erik2 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:20 pm

All my OOB scenarios are manual labor.
But it is quite easy to make a template of the original PzC map which matches OOB hex by hex.
Sometimes I need to stitch PzC map parts. The free Microsoft Image Composite Editor (ICE) makes this process real easy.

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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:44 pm

Interesting. Indeed, I've always thought that it's the map that takes the longest in scenario designing. That's where you are saving the lion's share of your time. We are all the better for it, too. Keep going, my friend. You may not get as much feedback as you would like or would have anticipated but I'm sure there are plenty of people hoarding your work like me:

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There's only one campaign of yours that's missing there; that's the one that I have had time to "take under my own wing," so to speak. :wink:

So, all I can offer in return (as my own custom designing stinks) are these CSI Sweeps. When you are ready, I'll do Germany East 43 as you suggested and then perhaps another Germany or your Forgotten Army (which is listed as version 0.9, i.e. <1.0, so is it ready for sweeping?).
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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by GabeKnight » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:26 am

Great work with your sweeps. Thanks.
(I see two campaigns in your list that are not Erik's, BTW :wink: )

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Re: CSI Sweep: Germany West 41-43

Post by bru888 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:26 am

GabeKnight wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:26 am
(I see two campaigns in your list that are not Erik's, BTW :wink: )
Yes, those are also to be Works in Progress sometime in the future. I'm not much into mods or your own opus would be on the list as well. :wink:

Edit: And I just realized, from looking at it, that this one was in the wrong folder. It should be in here:

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