A lament for Steppes...

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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by shadowdragon » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:57 pm

ChrisTofalos wrote:Fair comment Peter. But then what's the point of listing Steppes at all?
It’s useful for campaigns where the campaign determines who is the invader. I’m doing one based on the old DBA simplified campaign system. The winner of the initiative gets to choose the terrain type from the list of the original owner of the territory which means steppe armies pretty much get to choose step if invaded.

As for tournaments I’m sure imaginative organizers could easily fix the problem.

As for the rules...I never thought strategic aggressiveness = scouting advantage / tactical terrain selection. Perhaps each army should have a strategic agressiveness factor (1 to 3) added to a die roll to determine the invader. The winner of the initiative gets to choose from the invaded territory list. So mongols = 3, late republican Roman = 3, Parthian = 2 or even 1, etc.

Or...use the CinC level as a proxy for aggression. An invader roll with the CinC level as the only modifier (high roll = invader) precedes the tactical initiative roll (modified as per the rules). IC more likely to be the invader but more likely to get terrain pick albeit from the opponent’s list.

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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by berthier » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:07 am

For campaigns that I have put together, I use point to point maps and generate terrain for each each point on the map. Players use those choices for battles in the points (or nodes). Seems to work pretty good.
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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by dave_r » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:41 am

berthier wrote:For campaigns that I have put together, I use point to point maps and generate terrain for each each point on the map. Players use those choices for battles in the points (or nodes). Seems to work pretty good.
Don't encourage him about campaigns. He's been banging on about that for years....
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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by shadowdragon » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:42 am

dave_r wrote:
berthier wrote:For campaigns that I have put together, I use point to point maps and generate terrain for each each point on the map. Players use those choices for battles in the points (or nodes). Seems to work pretty good.
Don't encourage him about campaigns. He's been banging on about that for years....
Would that be....[bang on] OR [whinge] about [random topic]?

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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by dave_r » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:17 pm

shadowdragon wrote:
dave_r wrote:
berthier wrote:For campaigns that I have put together, I use point to point maps and generate terrain for each each point on the map. Players use those choices for battles in the points (or nodes). Seems to work pretty good.
Don't encourage him about campaigns. He's been banging on about that for years....
Would that be....[bang on] OR [whinge] about [random topic]?
You moan rather than whinge.

Get it right please.
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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by grahambriggs » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:50 pm

philqw78 wrote:But Catalaunian Plains looked a lot like steppe with no significant terrain at all
Apart from the heaving great hill that was the focus of the battle.

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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by philqw78 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:44 pm

The hill was to the Roman right and certainly wasn't the focus
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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by nikgaukroger » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:48 pm

You really ought to go and read Jordanes Phil :lol:
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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by grahambriggs » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:40 pm

philqw78 wrote:The hill was to the Roman right and certainly wasn't the focus
In case you're mislaid your Jordanes: "The battle field was a plain rising
by a sharp slope to a ridge, which both armies sought to
gain; for advantage of position is a great help. The
Huns with their forces seized the right side, the Romians,
the Visigoths and their allies the left, and then began a
struggle for the yet untaken crest. "

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Re: A lament for Steppes...

Post by shadowdragon » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:55 pm

grahambriggs wrote:
philqw78 wrote:The hill was to the Roman right and certainly wasn't the focus
In case you're mislaid your Jordanes: "The battle field was a plain rising
by a sharp slope to a ridge, which both armies sought to
gain; for advantage of position is a great help. The
Huns with their forces seized the right side, the Romians,
the Visigoths and their allies the left, and then began a
struggle for the yet untaken crest. "
Not to forget the stream of gore.

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