Slitherine

Here are mine:

1. P-80 Shooting Star
2. Configurable tank designs (be involved in the design requirements if enough decisive victories)
3. Mines
4. Airborne units with +1 ammo
5. T-1000, also known as a Prototype Series 1000 Terminator

Italian flamethrower tanks. Folklore paratroops. Gustatori.

If I don't like the new features of Panzer Corps 2, I would be happy as a Panzer Corps 1 player, if the existing maps would be exportable for the previous version and playable with a possible standard setting on vehicles. Alternatively, maybe in the game a switch for "Panzer Corps 1 Mode".

Americans
- P-80 Shooting Star
- The US naval aircraft (Wildcat, Corsair, Hellcat, Dauntless, Helldiver are a minimum)
- The experimental heavy tanks (T29/T30/T32)
- M38 Wolfhound

British
- De Havilland Vampire
- Centurion tank
- AEC Armoured Car

French
- Later generation prototypes across the board, enough for branching scenarios that would have France around in 1941 or even 1942
- Char B1ter, Char G1, and ARL 44 heavy tank
- Somua S40 medium tank and SAu40 assault gun
- AMX 38 light tank
- Arsenal VG-39 and VB-10 fighters
- Breguet Bre.693 tactical bomber (this one should be in the 1940 lineup)
- MB.152 fighter (1940) and MB.157 (1941-42)
- Bloch MB.162 strategic bomber
- Laffly V15 light recon vehicle
- Lorraine 37/38/39 tracked carrier

Germans
- Hs 132 jet dive bomber
- Greater range of half-track options

Italians
- The Semovente 75/46 tank destroyer
- Re.2001 Falco II / Re.2002 Ariete / Re.2005 Sagittario fighters
- Z.1007 Alcione tactical bomber
- Italian paratrooper and marine infantry
- Fiat 665 or SPA Dovunque 35 Prottetto transport
- Semovente 20/70 prototype SPAAG
- AB 43 armored car
- SM.82 Canguro
- Ca.314 light bomber
- Ca.331 Raffica twin-engine fighter
- Ba.201 dive bomber

Japanese
- Full range of units, too many to list. Should be a completed faction.

Soviets
- Yak-15 jet
- IS-3 and IS-4
- Aerosans

Others
- Poland: PZL P.24 fighter, PZL.37 Los strategic bomber, more of their prototype weapons for possible survival into 1940: 20mm Nkm wz. 38 AA/AT autocannon, PZL.50 Jastrzab and PZL.48 Lampart fighters, PZL.46 Sum tactical bomber, 10TP light tank, TKD / TKS-D light tank destroyers
- Dutch: Their air force (Fokker D.XXI and G.I, and Koolhoven F.K.58 fighters, Fokker C.X and T.V tactical bombers), the M39 Pantserwagen armored car
- Belgium: The Vickers T-13 and T-15 light tank and tank destroyer, FN Tricar as recon vehicle
- Finland: The VL Myrsky fighter and Pyörremyrsky prototype fighter, the Fokker D.XXI, the Blenheim, the BT-42 assault gun, more infantry options
- Romania: Their tank destroyers (TACAM R-2 / T-60), their light tanks (R-2), their air force (IAR 80 and Bf 109 fighter, IAR 39, 79, and 81 tactical bombers)
- Hungary: Their full range of ground vehicles (38M Toldi I/42M Toldi II/43M Toldi III light tanks, 40M/41M/43M Turán medium tanks, 44M Tas experimental heavy tank, 40M Nimród SPAAG, 39M Csaba recon car, 43M Zrínyi assault gun), some air force (Bf 109 and Re.2000/Héja fighter, WM-21 Sólyom and Me 210 tactical bomber)
- Australia: AC1 Sentinel and AC3 Thunderbolt tanks, Rover and/or Dingo recon car, CAC Boomerang fighter, CAC Wirraway and Woomera tactical bomber, DAP Beaufighter, DAP Beaufort, DHA Mosquito
- Canada: Fox, Lynx, Otter armored cars, Ram, Grizzly, and Valentine tanks, Sexton SPG, Kangaroo APC, Hurricane fighter, Mosquito, Helldiver, and Lancaster bombers
- China: Basic infantry, cavalry, and artillery units, couple aircraft like the Curtiss P-40 and the Vultee V-11
- Sweden: Lot of potentially cool units to add if they're involved in any ahistorical campaigns: SAAB J21 and FFVS J22 fighter, SAAB B17 and B18 bomber, Strv m/40, m/41, and m/42 tanks, Pbil m/39 and m/40 armored cars, Sav m/43 assault gun, Pvkv m/43 tank destroyer, Ltkv m/41 and m/43 SPAAGs, Tgbil m/42 infantry transport, Tgpbil m/43 recon car, and tons of artillery variety
- Czechoslovakia: Again, lot of potential units if they're in an ahistorical campaign (such as one where they fought Germany in 1938): LT vz. 34, 35, and 38 light tanks, ST vz. 39 medium tank, OA vz. 30 armored car, B-534 and B-135 fighter, B-71 bomber (Tupolev SB), and large variety of artillery
- Spain: Enough stuff for them to appear in ahistorical campaigns (or even a Spanish Civil War one) - infantry, cavalry, artillery, T-26, Panzer I, and L3/35 tankettes, HA-132 (CR.32), D.XXI, and I-15/I-16 fighters
- Austria: Steyr ADGZ armored car (could be thrown into Germany's OOB)

Panzer Grenadiers should come with transport by default....

PanzerCro wrote:Panzer Grenadiers should come with transport by default....

Yeah, perhaps it would be best, as someone said, to make them a switching unit like the Sahariani or LRDG, with (some) combat capability even when mounted. The halftracks and trucks are currently just death traps...

I love secret/what if weapons.

If the Germans end up getting the Maus, I think a reasonable request for us Yanks would be the T29/T34 heavy tank.

Well, the super heavy tanks and other speculative stuff are fun, but I'd prefer if there was a historical PCII with more-or-less historical equipment as the base. Perhaps the speculative stuff should be in a separate, more free-wheeling "alt" campaign?

The end-war scenarios in PC with Mauses (Mäusen?) and V1 / V2s and superheavy artillery all over the place never seemed as balanced and compelling to me as the really interesting mid-war stuff.

A serious appraisal of the combat value of the Maus and other superheavies would have them rated very poorly. They would have been like the big siege guns - effective in a very narrow role in breaking sieges, but taking weeks to get into place for a very short offensive operation. Given their mechanical complexity and difficulty moving them around, they probably would have broken down / bogged often, and taken a long time to repair / retrieve. And they didn't really have any more firepower than a heavy tank, just more armor. I suspect they would have been extremely vulnerable to close assault and air attack. In a game like PC, they could have high attack and defence, but should have a move value of no more than 2, and about 2 ammo / 5 fuel to simulate the extreme awkwardness of using them operationally. And 0 close combat.

Brandenburgers
French Foreign Legion
The Devil’s Brigade
Merrill's Marauders
Special Boat Service
SAS unit that can change into heavily armed jeep for fast movement
Gurkhas

Amphibious armoured Vehircles

Panzer 35(t)
KV 1s
T 44
M22 Locust

T40 Whizbang

Harley-Davidson WLA

I'd like more unique specialist infantry.
Like commandos being able to move undetected.

Fw 187 (likely better than the Bf 110...
He 100
He 112 (also for Romania)
Ar 240
Ju 86 D, E and G and more importantly the later very interesting Ju 86 P and R high altitude long range reconnaissance/bomver version which was extremly difficult to shoot down
Do 215 as an upgrade to the Do 17
V1 and V2 rocket batteries
Late war anti aircraft missiles - as prototypes etc

Arsenal VG 33 for France

Myrsky for Finland

Personally, id like to see mortars in the game.. after all, they were the most numerous support weapons, each infantry division had a lot of them, and effectivity wise 120mm mortar was as effective as 155mm field howitzer (explosion size, effect on target) while 80-82mm mortars were as effective as 105mm howitzers..

FlaK 40 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.8_cm_FlaK_40
PAK44 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/12,8-cm-PaK_44
Sturer Emil https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstfahrlafette_L/61
Kugelblitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz
Me 262 HG I
Me 262 HG II
Me 262 HG III https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262
Messerschmitt P.1101https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_P.1101

The E-Series Tanks
E-5, E-10, E-25, E-50, E-75, E-100

Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger https://worldoftanks.eu/de/tankopedia/6 ... _Steyr_WT/
Panzerkampfwagen VII Löwe https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkam ... _L%C3%B6we

For Croatia - Domobrani (Home-Guard), Oružništvo (Militia), Ustaše (special militia), V.Stajaći Sdrug (elite unit)

For Kingdom Yugoslavia (existed till 1941.) - Royal guard (army), Chetniks (special militia)

For Socialistic Federal Republic of Yugoslavia - Partisans (regular army), "Proleterska brigada" (elite unit)

Not sure if anyone is still reading this thread but the timing is ok. The following are in addition to the PzC roster and I think some have been mentioned already.

In general:
-horse transport (imo, too numerous not to be in the game)
-mobile airfield
-ski troops
-airborn support weapons (light AT/Art)
-a few different types of fortifications, like AA/AT emplacements. Same could go for armored trains.
-reserve inf, bridging engineers for minor nations
-separate ground transport categories for inf and guns (maybe an expanded version of the lightpull/heavypull traits in PzC 1 for certain guns)
-HQ units

Germany:
-Volksturm, volksgrenadiere, Polizei battalion
-marder I, and other modded enemy armor
-Panzer IV/70(A) Alkett
-sIG 38(t)H
-Sturmtiger
-early Panzer III/IV and StuGIII variants
-Panzer 35t
-variations on Sdkfz 250
-variations on Sdkfz 251
-variations on Sdkfz 234
-RSO
-Sdkfz 10
-3.7 cm Flakzwilling 43
-sIG 33 Panzer III
-Ju 88/188 variants
-He 219

USSR:
-Naval Inf
-HW Inf
-Shtrafbat punishment unit (maybe?)
-Partisans
-KV-1s
-Aerosan
-universal carrier with AT rifle

UK:
-AEC Armored Car
-Crusader AAA variants
-M5 Stuart recce (turretless version)

US:
-T8 Reconnaissance Vehicle (M5 turretless version)

Canada:
-Otter Armored Car

Italy:
-Paratroopers
-Fiat G.50, G.55
-Savoia-Marchetti SM.82
-Reggiane 2000 serie fighters

Romania:
-TACAM R-2 and T-60
-IAR 80/81
-IAR 79

Hungary:
-Toldi I/II/III and Turán tanks
-Zrínyi,
-Nimród
-39M Csaba

Finland:
-BT-42

Adding unit types and increasing the number of vehicle types might seem like an attractive idea at first. However, I feel that expanding unit inventory to include all (fringe) historical units and vehicles might not serve much practical purpose.
In short- because you probably don't want to spend your prestige on every stop-gap model that comes along. Players tend to save prestige. For example, I don't remember the last time I bought Marders. Always go for stugs and then elefant. (Which doesn't mean I don't like Marders, but I exclusively use them for 'flavour' .
What use is including police or reserve infantry? Why would a player spend, let's say 100 prestige (and a unit slot) on a police unit with poor fighting stats? Historically, these units were supposed to guard installations and garrison towns; they had serious problems handling even partisans...
Stug variants are adequately represented in Panzer Corps. Early variants, historically, were engine and drive-train upgrades. Gun was the same.
Panzer 35t and various patch-work sp-artillery is another redundancy problem.

Having horse transports might be the most interesting one, that was also featured in Panzer General series. Mostly non-core units had horses, which I thought was a good compromise.

auda wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:04 am Adding unit types and increasing the number of vehicle types might seem like an attractive idea at first. However, I feel that expanding unit inventory to include all (fringe) historical units and vehicles might not serve much practical purpose.
In short- because you probably don't want to spend your prestige on every stop-gap model that comes along. Players tend to save prestige. For example, I don't remember the last time I bought Marders. Always go for stugs and then elefant. (Which doesn't mean I don't like Marders, but I exclusively use them for 'flavour' .
What use is including police or reserve infantry? Why would a player spend, let's say 100 prestige (and a unit slot) on a police unit with poor fighting stats? Historically, these units were supposed to guard installations and garrison towns; they had serious problems handling even partisans...
Stug variants are adequately represented in Panzer Corps. Early variants, historically, were engine and drive-train upgrades. Gun was the same.
Panzer 35t and various patch-work sp-artillery is another redundancy problem.

Having horse transports might be the most interesting one, that was also featured in Panzer General series. Mostly non-core units had horses, which I thought was a good compromise.

Maybe I should clarify why I want these units. Indeed, not buying every subtype is sensible, police/reserve troops, etc are not awesome (although the new core system may go some way to balance this out), and some early variants of German AFVs were only minor upgrades to their predecessors. However, I am thinking about AI and aux unit usages for scenario/campaign design purposes, which is one of my favorite parts of Panzer Corps. I may not be the typical Panzer Corps player in that to me, the game is more about creating a world/environment than winning a scenario in the most efficient way possible. So, I want to have Volksturm and Police battalions comprising the Berlin garrison, Sov Naval Inf defending Russia, captured/modified French armor in Normandy, a large proportion of horse drawn equipment, etc. Put simply, I welcome the flavor, but I'm not kidding myself. I don't expect to see all the units I listed in PC2, but it is nevertheless a wish-list and I'd rather have more than less. To me, the game is more compelling with more variety but we each have our own take on how much is enough. In the current game, I modded the equipment roster to redundancy in the past so I know there is a limit. For my taste, my previous post isn't too unreasonable and unlike in PC, once we go 3D, making icons for new units will be beyond my ability and willpower.

Germany:
-Flakpanzer VI "Kugelblitz"

-E-100
-Panther II
-more Halftracks
-possible more aircraft carrier Typs for Germany ( not only the Graf Zeppelin) (Flugdeckreuzer?)
https://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine ... index.html
- possible Flak-Racketen (Anti-Air Rockets) for example: Rheintochter, Wasserfall
America
-T29 (The American)
- more Halftracks
Italy:
-aircraft carrier Aquila (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_a ... ier_Aquila)