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ClaireRedfieldU
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Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by ClaireRedfieldU » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:18 pm

Hello, please tell me, is it expected to have a rating for the multiplayer part of the game in the panzer corp 2? Example: Each player starts with 1000 points, gives up -40 points, won +20 points, lost -20 points, maximum you can score 3000 points, player 560 points rating won player 2500 points rating +55 points as an example, player 2500 points rating won a player 400 points rating +5 points.

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by goose_2 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:18 pm

ClaireRedfieldU wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:18 pm
Hello, please tell me, is it expected to have a rating for the multiplayer part of the game in the panzer corp 2? Example: Each player starts with 1000 points, gives up -40 points, won +20 points, lost -20 points, maximum you can score 3000 points, player 560 points rating won player 2500 points rating +55 points as an example, player 2500 points rating won a player 400 points rating +5 points.
I am not sure they can do something like this, but if they can I would love to see something like this.
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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by ClaireRedfieldU » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:33 pm

goose_2 wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:18 pm
ClaireRedfieldU wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:18 pm
Hello, please tell me, is it expected to have a rating for the multiplayer part of the game in the panzer corp 2? Example: Each player starts with 1000 points, gives up -40 points, won +20 points, lost -20 points, maximum you can score 3000 points, player 560 points rating won player 2500 points rating +55 points as an example, player 2500 points rating won a player 400 points rating +5 points.
I am not sure they can do something like this, but if they can I would love to see something like this.
Hello Goose_2, the rating of the players is very important, I can estimate the strength of the player and accept the desire to accept or not multiplayer match.

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by PeteMitchell_2 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:35 pm

The topic sounds familiar, not sure whether this was discussed/mentioned previously already, however I would suggest some form of an ELO rating, i.e. as used by the World Chess Federation FIDE. In principle, ELO is an established system/concept but might need to be customized for the specific (computer) game in question. It would definitely help any PzC (2) MP experience… maybe not a project for the very first release of PzC2 but it can definitely be done for turn-based games with discrete results (DV, MV, draw, loss):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
https://dotesports.com/general/news/elo ... ined-20565
https://mmos.com/editorials/elo-rating- ... -for-mobas

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by ClaireRedfieldU » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:48 pm

PeteMitchell_2 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:35 pm
The topic sounds familiar, not sure whether this was discussed/mentioned previously already, however I would suggest some form of an ELO rating, i.e. as used by the World Chess Federation FIDE. In principle, ELO is an established system/concept but might need to be customized for the specific (computer) game in question. It would definitely help any PzC (2) MP experience… maybe not a project for the very first release of PzC2 but it can definitely be done for turn-based games with discrete results (DV, MV, draw, loss):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
https://dotesports.com/general/news/elo ... ined-20565
https://mmos.com/editorials/elo-rating- ... -for-mobas
Hello PeteMitchell_2, your idea is good, but I think the indie game rating should be simple, not as complicated as the system ELO and the player gave up should be punished as in the fighting game. Thanks.

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by PeteMitchell_2 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:13 pm

Well, I will always agree on keeping it simple... :mrgreen:

However, the required calculations to come up with a working ELO system are fairly straightforward and follow basic maths, it's nothing complicated (IMHO), maybe compare here for an example (very similar to what you posted above):
https://metinmediamath.wordpress.com/20 ... g-example/

and some more discussion on the maths:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system#Theory

It would be interesting to hear if developers have considered any form of rating system so far...

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by ClaireRedfieldU » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:46 pm

PeteMitchell_2 wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:13 pm

It would be interesting to hear if developers have considered any form of rating system so far...
Hello PeteMitchell_2, it is also very interesting to hear the official opinion on this issue?. I want the game to be not a visual remake of the first part, but a full-fledged sequel.

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by Rudankort » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 pm

Hi guys! Yes, MP rating system is on our wish list, and we are working with Slitherine to see if this is something we can do for 1.0, as it obviously requires some support from MP server's side. And yes, ELO rating system is what we are considering for specific implementation.

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by PeteMitchell_2 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:49 pm

Rudankort wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 pm
Hi guys! Yes, MP rating system is on our wish list, and we are working with Slitherine to see if this is something we can do for 1.0, as it obviously requires some support from MP server's side. And yes, ELO rating system is what we are considering for specific implementation.
Thanks a lot for your reply Rudankort, this is great news!

Just as a side note, a good MP rating system could even help in organizing/establishing leagues, teams of players and tournaments/championships.

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Re: Panzer Corps 2 multiplayer rating

Post by ClaireRedfieldU » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:20 pm

Rudankort wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 pm
Hi guys! Yes, MP rating system is on our wish list, and we are working with Slitherine to see if this is something we can do for 1.0, as it obviously requires some support from MP server's side. And yes, ELO rating system is what we are considering for specific implementation.
Thanks, it remains to wait for the port on the Nintendo switch.

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