Sandbox Campaign suggestions

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by TimDee58 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:04 am

thats odd because i only use TT for campaigns and i'm reasonably sure Ive seen it

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:30 pm

TimDee58 wrote:thats odd because i only use TT for campaigns and i'm reasonably sure Ive seen it
If you see it again, post a screenshot.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:31 pm

I also play with TT mod, it may be specific

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:32 pm

matlegob wrote:I also play with TT mod, it may be specific
But it isn't, TT Mod does not contain modded campaign scripts.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by Paul59 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:32 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
TimDee58 wrote:Hi Richard, I may be wrong but i think thats a TT Mod Sandbox modification to the campaign
Unlikely, as TT Mod Sandbox does not include modded campaign scripts.
That's correct. I have not modded the campaign scripts in the TT Mod, it uses exactly the same campaign options as the vanilla game.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:33 pm

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:37 pm

Ah, I think I understand. The choice you are referring to is not intended to represent a rearguard action (a defensive action carried out by a retreating army). It in fact represents a battle fought with hastily scraped together rear echelon troops, by which we mean garrison units, militia, reserve units, hastily raised levies etc.

Unfortunately the system cannot cope with fighting a second battle after a non-field-army is defeated.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:54 pm

I think you got it.

Sorry, my translation from french to english was not quite good

I understand your answer, but can we imagine a malus on reinforcment as consequence of a lose battle with rear echelon (or with allied army), in stead of replaying this battle?

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:25 pm

matlegob wrote:I think you got it.

Sorry, my translation from french to english was not quite good

I understand your answer, but can we imagine a malus on reinforcment as consequence of a lose battle with rear echelon (or with allied army), in stead of replaying this battle?
Yes, that would be a possibility.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:53 am

Hello,

another question, unlike in the campaign mod of sengoku jidai, I never play a battle in wich my army sends troops in march to surprise the ennemi, with troops that enter the map in its flank

however, I have at several times been surprise by troops that enter to my army flanc

is it beaucause I usaually play with heavy troop (roman, gallic, spartans)?

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:53 am

matlegob wrote:Hello,

another question, unlike in the campaign mod of sengoku jidai, I never play a battle in wich my army sends troops in march to surprise the ennemi, with troops that enter the map in its flank

however, I have at several times been surprise by troops that enter to my army flanc

is it beaucause I usaually play with heavy troop (roman, gallic, spartans)?
No. Currently the campaigns do not include the player sending flank marches.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:21 pm

ho! could it be add like in the sengoku jidai: I really like it

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:59 pm

Will we see siege battles for the game and for the campaign?

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:28 pm

matlegob wrote:Will we see siege battles for the game and for the campaign?
Undecided at present. The problem is how to make siege mode enjoyable.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:59 am

I can suggest 2 scenarios for siege:

- assualt: like the scenario in sengoku jidia, when the defense army was behind fortified positions

- exit: the siege army try an exit with the help of an allied army which arrived in the back/flank of the siege army

To my point of view,this 2 types of scenarios could be included as battles in the campagin

there where a such scenario in "tin soldier ceasar", and the community content scenario as "Alesia" works well

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by matlegob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:07 am

Hello,

2 suggestions:

- add the possibility of hitting the general when firing at the unit where the general is: maybe a very few chance like 1% fot each fire

- add the possibility of a unit which receive an order to not apply it (the unit refused to apply order ou do not receive it), we can also imagine the opposite i.e an unit which not receive ordre could act by its own and taking an initiative of moving or charging

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by Vorenus81 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:23 pm

Hi Guys,

First of all, thank you for this great game. As a long time fan of ancient warfare I found this game very enjoyable. My main suggestion for sandbox campaign would be to made some sort of "ancient general simulator", by adding other aspects of ancient warfare to the game, all these other issues, which ancient general had to deal with:
- skirmishes,
- scouting,
- foraging (and other logistics issues),
- proper ambush mechanics,
- setting up a and defending a camp,
- sieges,
- forts, fields fortifications,
- guerilla warfare etc.

What I would like to get, is something more than just pitched battles. For instance, imagine if player could control the battle not only from the moment when army is already arrayed for battle, but from the moment of leaving the camp and deploying in battle order.
This would make especially light infantry/cavalry very valuable, since these formations excelled in these aspects of warfare (in pitched battles their role is limited to skirmish and pursuit, which is not portrayed in the game).

Another suggestions is to give some formations more flexibility in the way they fought on the battlefield or were used in other stages of the campaign. For instance, we know from the sources that roman legionaries in Spain, when fighting on rough terrain with enemeies which employed hit and run tactis were deployed to battles as fighting "expediti" without armor, sacrificing some protection for more mobility, (moreover, they could fight even using billhooks when neccesary :) ).
Same goes for some of Alexander's soldiers who could fight either in the phalanx or as more mobile hypaspist etc. It would be great to have such features in the game.
I know my ideas may sound a bit chaotic and impossoble to employ in the current game, but maybe you can use them in some other future projects.

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:44 pm

Thanks. Some of these ideas are already on the wish list, and thanks for the others, which are food for thought.
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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by GiveWarAchance » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:04 am

I my sandbox campaign now.... which is very good.... I'm getting a very wide diversity of enemy armies to fight caused by truces with the Romans while other eastern type nations attack and now an Arab army allied with the evil Romans.
The game is fun but I don't feel that I have a core army in this campaign cause I'm using mostly rearguard armies of new irregulars, a couple of archer units and untrained mobs and a few veteran zealot units from my original army which is good but I'm thinking it would be nice to have a campaign set-up option to decide from 3 levels of diversity in enemies ranging from only one enemy (example is Roman enemy every time) to sometimes fighting Roman allied armies and then a fully diversified option for many enemy armies along with one main one sometimes. Most probably people generally prefer the 3rd diversified option which is like it is now so this isn't an important idea but something to consider maybe.

I think you have made it this way using new units often to avoid the player army from gaining too much quality improvement from experience. I have some superior zealot units but they still get steamrolled by the Roman legions in normal combat until I can add in flanking & terrain advantages and have some weaker enemy auxiliary routing units debuffing legion morale if I'm lucky, and I'm still able to win the fights (on the default normal difficulty) despite particularly onerous losses in the early melee portion before gaining advantages.

Thank you for continuing to improve the campaigns and support this nice game.

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Re: Sandbox Campaign suggestions

Post by rbodleyscott » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:46 am

GiveWarAchance wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:04 am
I my sandbox campaign now.... which is very good.... I'm getting a very wide diversity of enemy armies to fight caused by truces with the Romans while other eastern type nations attack and now an Arab army allied with the evil Romans.
The game is fun but I don't feel that I have a core army in this campaign cause I'm using mostly rearguard armies of new irregulars, a couple of archer units and untrained mobs and a few veteran zealot units from my original army which is good but I'm thinking it would be nice to have a campaign set-up option to decide from 3 levels of diversity in enemies ranging from only one enemy (example is Roman enemy every time) to sometimes fighting Roman allied armies and then a fully diversified option for many enemy armies along with one main one sometimes. Most probably people generally prefer the 3rd diversified option which is like it is now so this isn't an important idea but something to consider maybe.
Indeed
I think you have made it this way using new units often to avoid the player army from gaining too much quality improvement from experience. I have some superior zealot units but they still get steamrolled by the Roman legions in normal combat until I can add in flanking & terrain advantages and have some weaker enemy auxiliary routing units debuffing legion morale if I'm lucky, and I'm still able to win the fights (on the default normal difficulty) despite particularly onerous losses in the early melee portion before gaining advantages.
No evil plot, just the RNG I think. Did you not get the option to use the field army in most of those battles?
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