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Early Antiquity?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:08 pm
by sIg3b
Will there be an expansion for early Antiquity (Kadesh and stuff)? I´d like to play some battles of the era when Chariots were high-tech. :)

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:30 am
by rbodleyscott
We plan to cover the full range of history from about 2500 BC to 1500 AD in due course.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 am
by melm
Does 2500 BC army contain only medium foot with some chariot and cavalry? :roll:

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:07 am
by rbodleyscott
melm wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 am
Does 2500 BC army contain only medium foot with some chariot and cavalry? :roll:
Mostly. No cavalry though at that date, and no true chariots either - some "battle cars".

The earliest armies are not very exciting but will be covered for the sake of completeness. It starts to get really interesting about 1600 BC.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:19 pm
by sIg3b
:D Great!

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:37 pm
by Yaitz331
rbodleyscott wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:30 am
We plan to cover the full range of history from about 2500 BC to 1500 AD in due course.
Ooh, official confirmation! :D

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:24 pm
by Lysimachos
Wonderful!

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:34 pm
by pharnabazus
melm wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 am
Does 2500 BC army contain only medium foot with some chariot and cavalry? :roll:
This is music to my ears.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:16 pm
by sIg3b
rbodleyscott wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:07 am
The earliest armies are not very exciting but will be covered for the sake of completeness. It starts to get really interesting about 1600 BC.
Looking forward to the 13th century empires! :D

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:04 am
by Lysimachos
But this is still better!


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Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
by Yggdrassil
Will there be a new expansion soon? It has been some time since the last one (October I think).

Also, this:
rbodleyscott wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:30 am
We plan to cover the full range of history from about 2500 BC to 1500 AD in due course.
Does this mean that the Field of Glory II game will not include Renaissance/Pike&Shot era? This era could use an update from the previous treatment by Slitherine (Pike&Shot game), it has been some time since that game was published.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:17 pm
by rbodleyscott
Yggdrassil wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
Does this mean that the Field of Glory II game will not include Renaissance/Pike&Shot era? This era could use an update from the previous treatment by Slitherine (Pike&Shot game), it has been some time since that game was published.
It means that if we do a reboot of those periods it will be in a separate game, not in a DLC for FOG2. We don't believe that it is possible to have a realistic "Universal Military Simulator" covering all periods. (As the very old game of that name proved!)

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:19 pm
by rbodleyscott
Yggdrassil wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
Will there be a new expansion soon? It has been some time since the last one (October I think).
We are working on it. Rather more new models are needed for the next DLC than were needed for either of the last two.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:01 pm
by Rodia
rbodleyscott wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:19 pm
Yggdrassil wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
Will there be a new expansion soon? It has been some time since the last one (October I think).
We are working on it. Rather more new models are needed for the next DLC than were needed for either of the last two.
Well, that's a nice clue. Speculation about the next DLC is going strong on the FOG2 Steam forums:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/660160/d ... 009839564/

Current consensus is: "I'll buy anything that gets released!"

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:49 pm
by Yggdrassil
rbodleyscott wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:17 pm
Yggdrassil wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
Does this mean that the Field of Glory II game will not include Renaissance/Pike&Shot era? This era could use an update from the previous treatment by Slitherine (Pike&Shot game), it has been some time since that game was published.
It means that if we do a reboot of those periods it will be in a separate game, not in a DLC for FOG2. We don't believe that it is possible to have a realistic "Universal Military Simulator" covering all periods. (As the very old game of that name proved!)
Fair enough. Seems like a sensible approach.

Well, fingers crossed that it will be in not to distant future… :D
And will include the Gunpowder empires :D


And will be linked with a AGEOD grand strategy game like FoG: Empires

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:50 pm
by Yggdrassil
rbodleyscott wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:19 pm
Yggdrassil wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
Will there be a new expansion soon? It has been some time since the last one (October I think).
We are working on it. Rather more new models are needed for the next DLC than were needed for either of the last two.
I'm guessing this is because the next expansion will jump to medieval period.

Time will tell :D

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:28 pm
by Yaitz331
rbodleyscott wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:19 pm
Yggdrassil wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am
Will there be a new expansion soon? It has been some time since the last one (October I think).
We are working on it. Rather more new models are needed for the next DLC than were needed for either of the last two.
I can't decide if I'm ecstatic for some tiny hint, or furious for how I feel teased with a tiny revelation like that.
Either way though, looking forward to whatever the next DLC brings!

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:42 am
by kongxinga
Glad to hear this. Anyone remember Slitherine's own and great 'Chariots of War'? Loved the time period with Gish Battle Carts running people over. Utter tanks versus everything except well ordered spears in the open.

Anyone know why usage of chariots are so spotty and inconsistent throughout the world? For example, Near East used chariots extensively, then stopped pretty much completely. In contrast Chariots were used only much later in the Far East when most of the near east had moved on. And then you have oddities like the native British.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:21 am
by melm
kongxinga wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:42 am
Glad to hear this. Anyone remember Slitherine's own and great 'Chariots of War'? Loved the time period with Gish Battle Carts running people over. Utter tanks versus everything except well ordered spears in the open.

Anyone know why usage of chariots are so spotty and inconsistent throughout the world? For example, Near East used chariots extensively, then stopped pretty much completely. In contrast Chariots were used only much later in the Far East when most of the near east had moved on. And then you have oddities like the native British.
There is a theory saying chariot is invented in near east(with the invention of wheel by Sumerian first). Then this technique spreads to the far east. I guess chariot phased out because of the rise of cavalry, which is more mobile and of good terrain adaptability. It is supported by the evidence from warring states period through Han dynasty that chariot is gradually placed by horse army. Near east may have this transition hundred years earlier.

Re: Early Antiquity?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:54 am
by jomni
Interesting to also note that the next evolution of the chariot in the form of War Wagons defeated horse cavalry in Europe and China.