Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

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Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by mihnea_1309 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:53 am

So I'm either blind or missed something obvious, but I'm playing as Dacia, around 20 turns in and I never saw any building proposal that let's me create Light Infantry (or Skirmishers, not sure of the proper terminology) or Archers for that matter. I thought ok, that's bad luck but then I realized that I also don't have Light Infantry/Skirmisher/Archers in the unit queue screen (where I can see Heavy Cavalry, Mercenaries etc..things that I can't actually build yet) :?: Very weird...

I checked the manual and the building guide on Steam, still confused...

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by loki100 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:32 am

you need to conquer a province that has light infantry as the local unit type

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by mihnea_1309 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:03 am

loki100 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:32 am
you need to conquer a province that has light infantry as the local unit type

Huh! So I have a province with provincial unit Dacian Heavy Infantry and one with Dacian Heavy Cavalry, so I assume once I manage to unite a Province that has Light Infantry I will get a Dacian specific unit of that type (some sort of Slingers maybe?). Sadly I can't see a way to check the unit type of provinces before they're created so I'll just need to stumble upon one (and take good care of the 3 Thracian Slinger units I started with).

The interesting fact is that I have acces to common (non-faction) Heavy Infantry/Heavy Cavalry (once I have the appropiate buildings) but not Skirmishers. I wonder if this is faction-specific to Dacia, or a Tribal trait or what...

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by loki100 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:31 am

its how Dacia has been set up

as a hint to where the units are - go for one of the Illyrian provinces

you can also check out the units database

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by Southern Hunter » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:04 am

You get LC skirmishers from the start IIRC, which are better anyway

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by mihnea_1309 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:29 am

loki100 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:31 am
its how Dacia has been set up

as a hint to where the units are - go for one of the Illyrian provinces

you can also check out the units database
Thanks, will keep that in mind!
Southern Hunter wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:04 am
You get LC skirmishers from the start IIRC, which are better anyway
By LC you mean Light Cavalry right? Yes, I can create them from the start. They are good indeed, but in FoG2 they're not that good compared to Slingers. Less damage and what's even more important, as I learned on my skin, they can't pass through your units so you can't really put them in front of the infantry.

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by MoLAoS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:32 am

mihnea_1309 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:29 am
loki100 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:31 am
its how Dacia has been set up

as a hint to where the units are - go for one of the Illyrian provinces

you can also check out the units database
Thanks, will keep that in mind!
Southern Hunter wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:04 am
You get LC skirmishers from the start IIRC, which are better anyway
By LC you mean Light Cavalry right? Yes, I can create them from the start. They are good indeed, but in FoG2 they're not that good compared to Slingers. Less damage and what's even more important, as I learned on my skin, they can't pass through your units so you can't really put them in front of the infantry.
Ah most people do Empires resolution apparently. In Empires there's not a very strong benefit to skirmishers, slingers, etc compared to the difference in FoG2.

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by loki100 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:45 am

MoLAoS wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:32 am
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Ah most people do Empires resolution apparently. In Empires there's not a very strong benefit to skirmishers, slingers, etc compared to the difference in FoG2.
well that is a unique take on how the Empires battle system works :wink:

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by MoLAoS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:46 am

loki100 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:45 am
MoLAoS wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:32 am
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Ah most people do Empires resolution apparently. In Empires there's not a very strong benefit to skirmishers, slingers, etc compared to the difference in FoG2.
well that is a unique take on how the Empires battle system works :wink:
Compared to FoG2.

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by devoncop » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:48 am

MoLAoS wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:46 am
loki100 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:45 am
MoLAoS wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:32 am
...
Ah most people do Empires resolution apparently. In Empires there's not a very strong benefit to skirmishers, slingers, etc compared to the difference in FoG2.
well that is a unique take on how the Empires battle system works :wink:
Compared to FoG2.
I would argue that Empires actually gives skirmishers an even more crucial role than in FoG2.

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Re: Playing as Dacia...stil no way to get Light Infantry/Skirmishers?!

Post by MoLAoS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:56 am

devoncop wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:48 am
MoLAoS wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:46 am
loki100 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:45 am


well that is a unique take on how the Empires battle system works :wink:
Compared to FoG2.
I would argue that Empires actually gives skirmishers an even more crucial role than in FoG2.
I mean you can win the FoG2 battle without ever attacking with your infantry in many cases. And you can win even more of the time with only a small use of infantry. But still large majority from skirmishers.

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