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Britcon 2018...

Post by ChrisTofalos » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:00 pm

With Britcon featuring Medieval this year and a deadline set for use of Book 3 of the lists it's highly possible we'll still be using the original lists. So what happens about polearms?

The draft of V3 included an option for players to decide whether to use heavy weapon or polearm. Don't think the published rules include any such option...

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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by petedalby » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:19 pm

Hi Chris - Terry is hopeful the new V3 Book 3 will be out in time for Britcon. If it's not then we'll be using the existing lists which sadly do not have polearms.

I say sadly because the lists I am considering will almost certainly feature polearms in their revised versions.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by philqw78 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:00 pm

Chinese?
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by petedalby » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:32 pm

Chinese?
I've found that as I've got older I prefer a curry but thanks for the kind offer Phil.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by ChrisTofalos » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:48 pm

I say sadly because the lists I am considering will almost certainly feature polearms in their revised versions.
Seems a bit of an oversight, given we're playing with V3 and the draft included an option for polearms when using the original lists. Comp organisers have made allowances for the new points values for superior. Why not polearms?

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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by dave_r » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:35 pm

ChrisTofalos wrote:
I say sadly because the lists I am considering will almost certainly feature polearms in their revised versions.
Seems a bit of an oversight, given we're playing with V3 and the draft included an option for polearms when using the original lists. Comp organisers have made allowances for the new points values for superior. Why not polearms?
Due to interpretation of who gets polearms. Not all heavy weapons get converted.

All superiors cost more, so easy to check. Not all heavy weapons are polearms.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by petedalby » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:51 pm

Seems a bit of an oversight
Definitely not an oversight Chris. It was given full consideration.

Without a confirmed release schedule we do not know if Book 3 will be out in time. And as there are no polearms in the existing V1/V2 lists it is impossible to predict which will remain heavy weapon and which will change.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by ChrisTofalos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:09 pm

Without a confirmed release schedule we do not know if Book 3 will be out in time. And as there are no polearms in the existing V1/V2 lists it is impossible to predict which will remain heavy weapon and which will change.
So what's wrong with allowing players to choose which type to use, just as the drafts allowed? Surely, using all the features of the new rules is better than barring what is an interesting new addition?

As I'll probably be using some sort of pike army it seems odd we're arguing about something which would help the other! :roll:

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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by petedalby » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:24 pm

So what's wrong with allowing players to choose which type to use
Who is to say which heavy weapons become polearms and which don't? Being wargamers we'd all choose the option that suited us the best with no consistency of approach.
Surely, using all the features of the new rules is better than barring what is an interesting new addition?
We will be using all of the features of the new rules. Polearms feature in several 'in period' lists from Book 2. Players are free to choose them if they so wish.

Hopefully this will prove to be a pointless discussion if the new Book 3 is published in good time.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by madaxeman » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm

Either way, we already have 11 players signed up to play
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by Caliph » Wed May 09, 2018 7:48 pm

"Who is to say which heavy weapons become polearms and which don't? Being wargamers we'd all choose the option that suited us the best with no consistency of approach."

I'm not so sure. If the blurb for the list says "polearms" or "halberds" for certain of the troops wouldn't that be sufficient?

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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by petedalby » Thu May 10, 2018 6:43 am

Sadly not. We've already seen some troops in Book 2 that are described as having Polearms remain as Heavy Weapon. EG Song Chinese.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by stancolleymore » Fri May 11, 2018 7:46 pm

petedalby wrote:Hi Chris - Terry is hopeful the new V3 Book 3 will be out in time for Britcon. If it's not then we'll be using the existing lists which sadly do not have polearms.

I say sadly because the lists I am considering will almost certainly feature polearms in their revised versions.
Is there a cut off date for the new book's arrival?

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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by petedalby » Sun May 13, 2018 6:46 pm

I asked Terry today and sadly we do not have a release date for the 3rd book. As an aside I asked him about the polearms / heavy weapon question for Britcon and he agrees with our approach.
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by madaxeman » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:43 pm

Current FoGAM players for Britcon:

Graham Briggs
Peter Dalby
JOHN PATRICK
Peter Card
David Morrison
Andrew Ellis
Steve Murton
Terry Shaw
steven brown
Bob Amey
Jon Akers
Brian Espie
Martyn Simpson
Graham Evans
Duncan Thompson
Paul Longmore
Dinomonticoli Monticoli
Paul Robinson
Paul Bartlett
David Bannister

We're currently on 121 confirmed players across the entire event, plus a bigger than ever trade show with a host of new traders:

Event Tickets via https://www.eventbrite.com/e/britcon-20 ... aff=update

Trader List at : http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon-2018-traders.html
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by madaxeman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:31 pm

Britcon Trade Show Information:

The Britcon Trade Show will be returning to the now-familiar surroundings of the Barnes Wallis Building at Manchester Uni over the weekend of 11th-12th August 2018.

Just come along and we will let you in for free - yes, that's right, no entry cost at all! We know you want to spend all of your hard earned cash with our loyal traders... so that's why we don't charge you entry!!

If you wish to register in advance so we can send you special advance information on offers and show deals from our Britcon trader offers and updates on demo games as well you can do so here.

​For details of the venue and how to get there, click here - or read on for a list of all of our traders

We also have a number of demo games, and a bar and cafeteria onsite.

So far we have the following traders confirmed:

Ainsty Castings (also carrying ranges from Gripping Beast Saga, Little Big Man transfers, North Star Figures full range - Copplestone, Frostgrave and many others)
All Rolled Up
Ancient & Modern / Donnington Miniatures (also carrying ranges from Xyston Miniatures).
Colonel Bills (4Ground mdf products, Gamers Grass basing materials, Coat d Arms Paints products, HMG spray varnish, EMP 28mm figures and animals, Fighting 15s and Eureka 15mm figures, AB figures Napoleonic Unit Packs, Black Hat Miniatures East Asian Range 28mm buildings)
Dave Lanchester Books
Daves Wargames
Dave Thomas (Perry Miniatures, Fireforge, Gripping Beast and Conquest plastics).
Footsore Miniatures
Hoka Hey Wargaming (Timeline Miniatures DF products also)
Instant Armies & Veteran Miniatures
KR Multicase
Lesley's Bits Box
Magister Militum
Mighty Lancer Games (Batman, Blood Bowl, Deadzone 2.0+, Dropfleet Commander, Kings Of War, Reaper Miniatures, Star Trek: Attack Wing, Star Wars: X-Wing, Star Wars: Imperial Assault, Star Wars: Armada, The Plastic Soldier Company, TT Combat, Warmachine MK3, Hordes)
Ministry of Buildings
PE2 Collectables (Armourfast, Early War Miniatures, PSC, Army Painter, Victrix, Conquest Games, 2nd hand figures and games)
The Pit
Rubicon Models
Sleeping Dragon Hobby Shop
Sarissa Precision
West Wind Productions (Forged in Battle, War & Empire)
War Banner (Gangs of Rome)
Warlord Games

In addition to these traders we will have a Bring and Buy, and a host of 1 and 2-day competitions.

Competitions are listed online on our website here: http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---period ... layed.html
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by madaxeman » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:11 pm

The big guns are coming out now...

Graham Briggs
Peter Dalby
JOHN PATRICK
Peter Card
David Morrison
Andrew Ellis
Steve Murton
Terry Shaw
steven brown
Bob Amey
Jon Akers
Brian Espie
Martyn Simpson
Graham Evans
Duncan Thompson
Paul Longmore
Dinomonticoli Monticoli
Paul Robinson
Paul Bartlett
David Bannister
Phil Powell
Dave Ruddock
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by madaxeman » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:02 pm

The Tofalosator is added to the roster...

Graham Briggs
Peter Dalby
JOHN PATRICK
Peter Card
David Morrison
Andrew Ellis
Steve Murton
Terry Shaw
steven brown
Bob Amey
Jon Akers
Brian Espie
Martyn Simpson
Graham Evans
Duncan Thompson
Paul Longmore
Dinomonticoli Monticoli
Paul Robinson
Paul Bartlett
David Bannister
Phil Powell
Dave Ruddock
Chris Tofalos
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by madaxeman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:47 pm

As of today.,.

Graham Briggs
Peter Dalby
JOHN PATRICK
Peter Card
David Morrison
Steve Murton
Terry Shaw
steven brown
Jon Akers
Brian Espie
Martyn Simpson
Graham Evans
Duncan Thompson
Paul Longmore
Dinomonticoli Monticoli
Paul Robinson
Paul Bartlett
David Bannister
Phil Powell
Dave Ruddock
Chris Tofalos
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Re: Britcon 2018...

Post by dave_r » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:41 am

Have Bob and Andy dropped out?
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