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International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by hazelbark » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:06 pm

The International Team Challenge 2013 will be held Sept 7-8 in Lisbon Portugal

This event has run yearly since 1999, rotating from Switzerland to Belgium and now Portugal. Originally it was played using DBM now it is played using FOG:AM.

Location will be Cordoaria Nacional (this was the place where the big ropes for the sailing ships were made)
Please find some info at http://www.ajsportugal.org/Cordoaria.html

Each team will represent a nation. Each nation will have one team. A team will 4 members, one entered in each period.
For more information you may post questions here, to meet at Hazelbark2005 (at) yahoo (dot) com or to our host running the event joaomsdiogo (at) gmail (dot) com

Details on team entry and dates to follow.

This year the periods and points are as follows:

1 Republican Rome 900 points
2 Elephants 850 points
3 Mongols 800 points
4 Early Medieval Europe 900 points


Period 1 Republican Rome and its Foes
(550 BC to 25 BC) (Any lists with cataphracts may
only buy the minimum number of bases.)

Rise of Rome:
Mid Republican Roman
Late Republican Roman
Gallic
Pyrrhic
Later Carthaginian
Illyrian
Ancient Spanish
Later Macedonian
Attalid Pergamene
Numidian or Early Moorish
Later Seleucid
Later Ptolemaic
Pontic
Spartacus Slave Revolt
Later Jewish

Lost Scrolls:
Early Republican Roman
Etruscan League
Italian Hill Tribes
Latin
Samnite
Campanian
Apulian, Lucanian or Bruttian

Legions Triumphant:
Early German

Immortal Fire:
Kyrenean Greek
Hellenistic Greek
Early Carthage
Syracusan
Early Successor
Galatian

Period 2 Elephant Armies of Asia
(Elephants only cost 20 AP per base. This is to encourage Elephants)

Empires of the Dragon:
Southern Dynasties Chinese (only SD options)
Later Hindu North Indian
Later Hindu South Indian
Western Wei to Early Tang Chinese (sui option only)
Tibetan
Late Tang to Five Dynasties Chinese (southern Tang, which is part of ten
kingdoms or Other options only)
Khmer or Champa
Nanzhao
Pagan Burmese
Song Chinese (southern only)
Ghurid Afghan
Muslim Indian Sultanates (Only from 1221)
Medieval Indonesian or Malay
Yuan Chinese (only from 1301)
Medieval Burmese

Immortal Fire
Indo-Greek
Classical Indian

Legions Triumphant
Kushan or Indo-Skythian
Hephthalite Hunnic

Period 3 Mongol Theme
(Years 1201-1299)
(No matter army choice Steppe terrain is always an option)

Oath of Fealty:
Early Hungarian
Early Russian
Feudal Polish
Feudal German (east option only)
Early Lithuanian or Samogitian
Wendish, Prussian or Estonian
Post-Viking Scandinavian
Early Teutonic Knights
Mongol Invasion

Eternal Empire:
Tatar
Later Russian

Empires of the Dragon:
Later Horse Nomad
NanZhao
Koryo Korean
Liao
Song Chinese
Xi Xia
Ghurid Afghan
Jin
Late Heian to Muromachi Japanese
Mongol Conquest
Yuan Chinese

Swords and Scimitars
Georgian
Cuman
Khwarazmian
Middle Bulgarian
Mamaluk Egyptian

Period 4 Early Medieval Europe
Only Year range 1001-1329

Storm of Arrows (any)
Wolves from the Sea (any)
Oath of Fealty (any except Mongol Invasion)

Lost Scrolls:
Medieval German City Leagues
Later Medieval Feudal German
Later Medieval Frisian or Dithmarschen

From Swords and Scimitar:
Early Crusader
Later Crusader
Komnenan Byzantine
Middle Serbian
Middle Bulgarian
Medieval Cypriot
Post Latin Conquest Byzantine
Latin Greece

Decline and Fall:
Nikephorian Byzantine

Eternal Empire:
Late Byzantine
Late Bulgarian

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by philqw78 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:12 pm

What are Tibetans doing in the heffalump period?
phil
putting the arg into argumentative

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by hazelbark » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:14 pm

philqw78 wrote:What are Tibetans doing in the heffalump period?
Targets? :D

IIRC they are foes of many of the armies in the period.

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by timmy1 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:28 pm

Do we know anyone who has a Tibetian army for FoG:AM...?

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by muz177 » Tue May 07, 2013 3:07 am

Is it possible to create a Barbarians team (ie where there are not enough competitors from Australia we could combine with NZ, etc)?

Which countries are represented so far?

regards Muz

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by dave_r » Tue May 07, 2013 9:25 am

muz177 wrote:Is it possible to create a Barbarians team (ie where there are not enough competitors from Australia we could combine with NZ, etc)?

Which countries are represented so far?

regards Muz
We can certainly assist - please drop me a pm or email.
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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by hazelbark » Tue May 07, 2013 8:13 pm

muz177 wrote:Is it possible to create a Barbarians team (ie where there are not enough competitors from Australia we could combine with NZ, etc)?

Which countries are represented so far?

regards Muz
Historically there has often been an ANZAC team. Once we had a loosely defined Commonwealth team.

Stephen Ladanyi might be able to hook you up with various others that would help qualify.

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by domblas » Sat May 25, 2013 3:47 pm

hazelbark wrote:The International Team Challenge 2013 will be held Sept 7-8 in Lisbon Portugal

This event has run yearly since 1999, rotating from Switzerland to Belgium and now Portugal. Originally it was played using DBM now it is played using FOG:AM.

Location will be Cordoaria Nacional (this was the place where the big ropes for the sailing ships were made)
Please find some info at http://www.ajsportugal.org/Cordoaria.html

Each team will represent a nation. Each nation will have one team. A team will 4 members, one entered in each period.
For more information you may post questions here, to meet at Hazelbark2005 (at) yahoo (dot) com or to our host running the event joaomsdiogo (at) gmail (dot) com

Details on team entry and dates to follow.

This year the periods and points are as follows:

1 Republican Rome 900 points
2 Elephants 850 points
3 Mongols 800 points
4 Early Medieval Europe 900 points


Period 1 Republican Rome and its Foes
(550 BC to 25 BC) (Any lists with cataphracts may
only buy the minimum number of bases.)

Rise of Rome:
Mid Republican Roman
Late Republican Roman
Gallic
Pyrrhic
Later Carthaginian
Illyrian
Ancient Spanish
Later Macedonian
Attalid Pergamene
Numidian or Early Moorish
Later Seleucid
Later Ptolemaic
Pontic
Spartacus Slave Revolt
Later Jewish

Lost Scrolls:
Early Republican Roman
Etruscan League
Italian Hill Tribes
Latin
Samnite
Campanian
Apulian, Lucanian or Bruttian

Legions Triumphant:
Early German

Immortal Fire:
Kyrenean Greek
Hellenistic Greek
Early Carthage
Syracusan
Early Successor
Galatian

Period 2 Elephant Armies of Asia
(Elephants only cost 20 AP per base. This is to encourage Elephants)

Empires of the Dragon:
Southern Dynasties Chinese (only SD options)
Later Hindu North Indian
Later Hindu South Indian
Western Wei to Early Tang Chinese (sui option only)
Tibetan
Late Tang to Five Dynasties Chinese (southern Tang, which is part of ten
kingdoms or Other options only)
Khmer or Champa
Nanzhao
Pagan Burmese
Song Chinese (southern only)
Ghurid Afghan
Muslim Indian Sultanates (Only from 1221)
Medieval Indonesian or Malay
Yuan Chinese (only from 1301)
Medieval Burmese

Immortal Fire
Indo-Greek
Classical Indian

Legions Triumphant
Kushan or Indo-Skythian
Hephthalite Hunnic

Period 3 Mongol Theme
(Years 1201-1299)
(No matter army choice Steppe terrain is always an option)

Oath of Fealty:
Early Hungarian
Early Russian
Feudal Polish
Feudal German (east option only)
Early Lithuanian or Samogitian
Wendish, Prussian or Estonian
Post-Viking Scandinavian
Early Teutonic Knights
Mongol Invasion

Eternal Empire:
Tatar
Later Russian

Empires of the Dragon:
Later Horse Nomad
NanZhao
Koryo Korean
Liao
Song Chinese
Xi Xia
Ghurid Afghan
Jin
Late Heian to Muromachi Japanese
Mongol Conquest
Yuan Chinese

Swords and Scimitars
Georgian
Cuman
Khwarazmian
Middle Bulgarian
Mamaluk Egyptian

Period 4 Early Medieval Europe
Only Year range 1001-1329

Storm of Arrows (any)
Wolves from the Sea (any)
Oath of Fealty (any except Mongol Invasion)

Lost Scrolls:
Medieval German City Leagues
Later Medieval Feudal German
Later Medieval Frisian or Dithmarschen

From Swords and Scimitar:
Early Crusader
Later Crusader
Komnenan Byzantine
Middle Serbian
Middle Bulgarian
Medieval Cypriot
Post Latin Conquest Byzantine
Latin Greece

Decline and Fall:
Nikephorian Byzantine

Eternal Empire:
Late Byzantine
Late Bulgarian
hi
does these lists apply to allies?
Edward

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by hazelbark » Tue May 28, 2013 3:03 pm

domblas wrote: hi
does these lists apply to allies?
Edward
In what sense?
1) The must maintain year range restrictions. Meaning both be eligible as allies from the main list and then only the options for that year range in the allied list.
2) Other list restrictions like minimum only Cats still apply.

If you questions is:
Eligible list Alpha year 1333 has an ally Beta eligible but Beta is not on the list of allowed main armies, can Beta be an ally. Yes.

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by philqw78 » Tue May 28, 2013 3:28 pm

So armies can have allies that are not listed
phil
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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by domblas » Wed May 29, 2013 7:34 am

I would like some example for us, non english speaking competitors

I will add questions to help

can we have an allied that is not on the list ? for example saka can be allied in some armies in the period 2
can we have an allied that is on the list but to another year? for example Yuan post 1301 can be allied of some armies

Edward

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by hazelbark » Wed May 29, 2013 2:19 pm

To try and clarify.
Only Year range 1001-1329
You have an army in the Storm of Arrows book. That army has an ally in the Empires of Dragon book.
yes that is possible as long as all rules are complied with.
For example.
If your SoA army is only allowed the ally after 1329 then the ally is not eligible because the origination army is not permitted it by the year range.
2nd example
If your SOA is allowed in in the year range and you select that range and it has an eligible ally that ally can be taken regardless of listing or book restriction. You MUST still only have that ally in that year and the options there of.

Is that a helpful clarification?
I realize no one wants to point to the specific super secret loophole they think they have discovered. But it would help.

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by hazelbark » Wed May 29, 2013 2:25 pm

domblas wrote:can we have an allied that is not on the list ? for example saka can be allied in some armies in the period 2
Yes if Saka is listed as an ally and it coforms to the year ranges if there are any yes it could be taken.

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by xavier » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:53 pm

Hi,

What table sizes will be used?

Thanks,
Xavier

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by dave_r » Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:14 pm

We are going with standard 6x4 foot tables.
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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by blackbeard66 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:22 pm

Hi,

One small clarification regarding the place of the event. It will not be at Cordoaria Nacional as at some point previewed, but at Museu de Marinha, the same place where it has been done lately. However, we'll have a different, and much nicer, room available. The games will be held at Pavilhão das Galeotas, literally in the middle of some nice museum exhibits.

http://museu.marinha.pt/NR/rdonlyres/D5 ... leotas.jpg

This Pavilion is located on the left hand side of the museum square.

Fernando

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by blackbeard66 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:05 pm

Hello again,

As the ones who attended recall, last year we organized a guided visit to Museu Militar on Friday afternoon (although some of you may have a nicer memory of Solar do Vinho do Porto that we visited afterwards :D ).

This year, if there are enough people interested and available, we can organize a full day visit to other places of interest, like "Centro de Interpretação da Batalha de Aljubarrota" http://www.fundacao-aljubarrota.pt/?idl=2, and/or for those with an interest in the Napoleonic periodic a visit to a couple of forts that integrated the "Linhas de Torres Vedras".
Everything is possible and other suggestions are welcomed. We just need a few things to make this happen:
Availability on Friday, 6th September;
Some extra euros to cover the expenses (visits, transport, lunch);
Let us know in advance the expected number of attendees (as we need to do some booking, hire a bus, etc);
Preferences on places to visit (alternatively we can list here a few suggestions and the interested people can vote);

At this point, with some teams still in assembling mode, what we need to know is the approximate number of people interested. On your side you'd need to book your trips to arrive on Thursday, so you can enjoy a full extra day on Friday with us.

Fernando

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by iversonjm » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:55 pm

We have two team members coming in Thursday who have expressed interest in touring. I and possibly one other will be coming in Friday at 8 AM, and I would like to participate as well if time allows. I know I'd love to see the Lines of Torres Vedras, but would be up for anything historical.

BTW, I'll also be staying an extra day (Monday). If you could put me in touch with any historical touring resources you might know of, I'd like to make some arrangements for that day as well. Anyone else sticking around for Monday, let me know.

Matt

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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by dave_r » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:20 pm

I'd be up for Torres Vedras - that would be good. I'm arriving on Thursday afternoon and leaving early on Monday. As a warning Matt - we found that a lot of the museums were closed on Mondays, not much open at all.

I'll try and get a combined response from the GB mob.
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Re: International Team Challenge 2013 Sept 7/8

Post by iversonjm » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:58 pm

dave_r wrote:I'd be up for Torres Vedras - that would be good. I'm arriving on Thursday afternoon and leaving early on Monday. As a warning Matt - we found that a lot of the museums were closed on Mondays, not much open at all.
That's too bad. Unfortunately the vagarities of the airline flights from Boston really require me to be there on a Monday.

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