"76.2mm M31" in AT mode

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Jelacic70
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"76.2mm M31" in AT mode

Post by Jelacic70 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:57 pm

When the "76.2mm M31" attacks first in AT mode there is no initiative penalty being applied.
I surmise this an error?
Battle log pasted below!


[h1](44th 76.2mm M31) attacks (24th Trubia)[/h1]

[h2]Main Stage[/h2]

Combat range: 0

Attacker's Initiative:
Base Initiative: 14
Attacker's Effective Initiative: 14

Defender's Initiative:
Base Initiative: 7
'Operational Initiative' unit trait: +1
Mass Attack: 0
Defender's Effective Initiative: 8

Initiative Difference: 14 - 8 = +6
Attacker shoots first. 100% of damage will be applied before defender can shoot back.

[h3](44th 76.2mm M31) strikes:[/h3]

Base Number of Shots (unsuppressed strength): 10
Effective Number of Shots: 10

Base Accuracy: 50
Bonus from recons and recon planes: +18
Effective Accuracy: 68%

Base Attack rating: 21
Effective Attack: 21

Base Defense rating: 11
Effective Defense: 11

Deflect/Suppress/Kill chances: 0% / 10% / 90%

Rolls (first roll determines Hit or Miss, second roll determines Deflect, Suppress or Kill):
58(Hit) -> 40(Kill)
2(Miss)
37(Hit) -> 51(Kill)
55(Hit) -> 54(Kill)
46(Hit) -> 12(Kill)
59(Hit) -> 42(Kill)
85(Hit) -> 33(Kill)
8(Miss)
60(Hit) -> 39(Kill)
54(Hit) -> 97(Kill)
Real result: 8 killed, 0 suppressed

Prediction: 6.058528 killed, 0.365815 suppressed

Randomness: 50%
Final result will be 50% real result and 50% prediction
Final result: 7 killed, 0 suppressed

[h3](24th Trubia) strikes:[/h3]

Base Number of Shots (unsuppressed strength): 1
'Rapid Fire 1.5x' unit trait: 1.50x
Effective Number of Shots: 1

Base Accuracy: 50
Effective Accuracy: 50%

Base Attack rating: 11
Effective Attack: 11

Base Defense rating: 10
Effective Defense: 10

Deflect/Suppress/Kill chances: 35% / 20% / 45%

Rolls (first roll determines Hit or Miss, second roll determines Deflect, Suppress or Kill):
41(Miss)
Real result: 0 killed, 0 suppressed

Prediction: 0.225000 killed, 0.104808 suppressed

Randomness: 50%
Final result will be 50% real result and 50% prediction
Final result: 0 killed, 0 suppressed
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Re: "76.2mm M31" in AT mode

Post by nexusno2000 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:49 pm

I don't think it applies at all, which is why AA guns are incredibly good. In SCW I avoid putting armor too close to AA, lest the AI switch and hammer me.
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Re: "76.2mm M31" in AT mode

Post by fluffybunnyuk » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:57 pm

i've never tried but can you finish a campaign in AT mode to use the AT hero, then switch it into AA mode, and get the bonus? That'd be cool and very useful on an 88!

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Re: "76.2mm M31" in AT mode

Post by Jelacic70 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:14 am

Thanks for the replies.
If that is how it is suppose to be I will take that into account when playing thanks.
However I don't think that is the way it should be, intentional or not.
I don't believe an AA gun in AT mode should be able to move and attack and suffer no initiative penalty.
It becomes far more lethal than a dedicated AT set in position and defending.
Any how Cheers!
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