Armour for hirdsmen?

[stockwellpete]

Is there any chance of having "some armour" added for Anglo-Saxon hirdsmen via this beta please, Richard? It has been discussed elsewhere and you seem to be open to that change. Just to close the gap a bit between protected hirdsmen and armoured huscarls.

[rbodleyscott]

Yes, I suppose so. The only thing that has stopped me so far is that I know for certain that certain people (present company excepted) will then demand that they have new models showing armour! That isn't going to happen.

[pompeytheflatulent]

Why not just have half huscarls and half hirdsmen in the relevant lists during the transition period?

[melm]

Why not just have half huscarls and half hirdsmen in the relevant lists during the transition period?

Sounds good. And then paint their tunic with same colour. Job done.

[rbodleyscott]

Why not just have half huscarls and half hirdsmen in the relevant lists during the transition period?

Because they are unlikely to have had any wholly armoured units at all.

[Athos1660]

Always surprised to see how cosmetics matter to some. FoG miniatures are so small!

If I were you, I’d just change the figures in squad.csv and mention in the patch notes that the armours are being cleaned and repaired at the blacksmith's or that the Anglo-Saxon hirdsmen are waiting for a trade agreement with Vercingetorix to buy them in Gaul...

[stockwellpete]

Why not just have half huscarls and half hirdsmen in the relevant lists during the transition period?

Because they are unlikely to have had any wholly armoured units at all.

Yes. I suppose the greatest concentrations of fully armoured hirdsmen would be in the "royal" Saxon armies, but even then you are talking about a relatively small numbers of soldiers.

[melm]

Always surprised to see how cosmetics matter to some. FoG miniatures are so small!

If I were you, I’d just change the figures in squad.csv and mention in the patch notes that the armours are being cleaned and repaired at the blacksmith's or that the Anglo-Saxon hirdsmen are waiting for a trade agreement with Vercingetorix to buy them in Gaul...

We can take a look at the models in Warhammer 40k: Sanctus Reach, another game published by Slitherine. And same engine as FOGII. So FOGII has the potential to have breathtaking miniatures like its peers.

If whole armoured soldiers is anachronistic, then we'd better wait.

[Athos1660]

We can take a look at the models in Warhammer 40k: Sanctus Reach, another game published by Slitherine. And same engine as FOGII. So FOGII has the potential to have breathtaking miniatures like its peers.

If whole armoured soldiers is anachronistic, then we'd better wait.

We each have our own priorities.
So do the devs. And it is a small team.

[stockwellpete]

There is no need for a separate model. Just make all hirdsmen units have "some armour" and that covers all eventualities very simply.

[rbodleyscott]

There is no need for a separate model. Just make all hirdsmen units have "some armour" and that covers all eventualities very simply.

It is done for the next update.

[pompeytheflatulent]

Always surprised to see how cosmetics matter to some. FoG miniatures are so small!

If I were you, I’d just change the figures in squad.csv and mention in the patch notes that the armours are being cleaned and repaired at the blacksmith's or that the Anglo-Saxon hirdsmen are waiting for a trade agreement with Vercingetorix to buy them in Gaul...

No, I just really wanted to avoid another unit like the well-equiped shieldwall from the Anglo-Danish list: looks like huscarls, walks like huscarl, quacks like huscarls. But closer in price and capabilities to regular old shieldwalls. Really confusing when playing.

[Athos1660]

No, I just really wanted to avoid another unit like the well-equiped shieldwall from the Anglo-Danish list: looks like huscarls, walks like huscarl, quacks like huscarls. But closer in price and capabilities to regular old shieldwalls. Really confusing when playing.

Ok

(btw my comment was meant to be just a light-hearted reply to rbodleyscott's first post. No harm intended.)

[stockwellpete]

There is no need for a separate model. Just make all hirdsmen units have "some armour" and that covers all eventualities very simply.

It is done for the next update.

Cheers Richard.

[toska]

I feel that late veteran hoplites also need some armor

[MVP7]

I feel that late veteran hoplites also need some armor

Hoplite armour generally became lighter towards the end of the weapon system's lifespan though.