Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
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Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Never noticed this before but in 2 recent games involving Superior Armoured Lancers the commanders are rerolling 2s. I thought only Elites rerolled 2s? Is this correct or is it a bug? Cheeers Turk
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Adding a general ups the quality of the units 1 for rerolls.
So that is correct...Superior reroll 1s, Superior with general will reroll 1s and 2s, Elites with a general reroll 1s, 2s and 3s.....
So that is correct...Superior reroll 1s, Superior with general will reroll 1s and 2s, Elites with a general reroll 1s, 2s and 3s.....
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Ok thanks for confirming that Does it mention this anywhere in the manual or Wiki as i cant find any reference?
Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
It's mentioned there somewhere, since I've known about it for a long time as well. That is the reason why people generally like to make elephants commanders(often buying several troop generals as indians just to do that), since it makes them a lot better and far more reliable.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Thanks Tiavals i guess ive never taken any notice before as i didnt think commanders had any beifit with dice. Makes no difference to me at the momment as 1s and 2s reroll as 3 s or less
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
The effect of commanders (generals) on dice rolls is explained on the Wiki. If you want to read it look here http://fog-pc-wiki.wikispaces.com/Generals+in+FOG
If you are new to FoG Digital I really do recommend reading at least some of this, particularly the parts that explain how combat works. It also gives some good tips and tactics.
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If you are new to FoG Digital I really do recommend reading at least some of this, particularly the parts that explain how combat works. It also gives some good tips and tactics.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
I'm no newbie but there's still gaps in my knowledge
Superior reroll 1s, Superior with general will reroll 1s and 2s, Elites with a general reroll 1s, 2s and 3s
That I had missed. Always thought there was no point in putting a commander in an elite BG...
but there's no guarantee the 3 will not be lower on second try
Superior reroll 1s, Superior with general will reroll 1s and 2s, Elites with a general reroll 1s, 2s and 3s
That I had missed. Always thought there was no point in putting a commander in an elite BG...
but there's no guarantee the 3 will not be lower on second try
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Well i dont feel so bad now if you didnt know either Hidde
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
The wiki says both that comanders need to be adjacent and that they only need to be in range to affect rally. The latter is, I am assuming, correct?
[Under Cohesian tests: "For most cohesion tests, the commander modifier applied is the same if you are anywhere within command range. The exceptions are for units attempting to rally/bolster to regain cohesion and for cohesion tests as a result of losing in impact or melee. In these cases the commander modifier only applies if the commander is adjacent to or with the BG taking the test."]
[Under Cohesian tests: "For most cohesion tests, the commander modifier applied is the same if you are anywhere within command range. The exceptions are for units attempting to rally/bolster to regain cohesion and for cohesion tests as a result of losing in impact or melee. In these cases the commander modifier only applies if the commander is adjacent to or with the BG taking the test."]
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Other than for poor troops re-rolling 6s, If a re-roll is lower than the original roll the original roll is used.hidde wrote:I'm no newbie but there's still gaps in my knowledge
Superior reroll 1s, Superior with general will reroll 1s and 2s, Elites with a general reroll 1s, 2s and 3s
That I had missed. Always thought there was no point in putting a commander in an elite BG...
but there's no guarantee the 3 will not be lower on second try
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Commanders only help for bolstering/rallying, e.g. regaining cohesion, if they are with the BG or adjacent to it. The same is true for a BG that is in combat.Aristides wrote:The wiki says both that comanders need to be adjacent and that they only need to be in range to affect rally. The latter is, I am assuming, correct?
[Under Cohesian tests: "For most cohesion tests, the commander modifier applied is the same if you are anywhere within command range. The exceptions are for units attempting to rally/bolster to regain cohesion and for cohesion tests as a result of losing in impact or melee. In these cases the commander modifier only applies if the commander is adjacent to or with the BG taking the test."]
For a commander to affect combat re-rolls, he must be with the BG.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
It doesn't matter if a re-roll is lower than the original as the unit will only re-roll misses. Back in the beginning of FOG there was the scenario between the Indians and Macedonians where you have Alexander as an elite BG with leader. I noticed that when I charged with Alex that the re-rolls caused me to miss. I rolled three 3s which were all hits and then rolled two 2s and a 1 resulting in Alex getting clobbered by a bow rather than running them down. From that point on the game was patched to prevent this occurrence.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
It doesn't matter for combat re-rolls but it can for cohesion (or complex move tests if there is more than one re-roll).pantherboy wrote:It doesn't matter if a re-roll is lower than the original as the unit will only re-roll misses. Back in the beginning of FOG there was the scenario between the Indians and Macedonians where you have Alexander as an elite BG with leader. I noticed that when I charged with Alex that the re-rolls caused me to miss. I rolled three 3s which were all hits and then rolled two 2s and a 1 resulting in Alex getting clobbered by a bow rather than running them down. From that point on the game was patched to prevent this occurrence.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
I thought there were no re-rolls except for combat in the digital game.batesmotel wrote:It doesn't matter for combat re-rolls but it can for cohesion (or complex move tests if there is more than one re-roll).pantherboy wrote:It doesn't matter if a re-roll is lower than the original as the unit will only re-roll misses. Back in the beginning of FOG there was the scenario between the Indians and Macedonians where you have Alexander as an elite BG with leader. I noticed that when I charged with Alex that the re-rolls caused me to miss. I rolled three 3s which were all hits and then rolled two 2s and a 1 resulting in Alex getting clobbered by a bow rather than running them down. From that point on the game was patched to prevent this occurrence.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
Yes i thought the same thing and you wont see the cohesion rolls unless you bring up the control panel which is a pain
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
There are definitely re-rolls for cohesion tests and these are shown in the console window. I believe there are complex move tests as well but don't think these are shown in the console since rolls aren't shown at all for many or all CMTs. As an exception re-rolls shouldn't apply to anarchy charge tests and I believe that is working correctly but there is no console display to verify that.
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Re: Superior Lancers Commanders Reroll 2s
No wonder everyone is confused as there are rolls you dont even see