NG:I assume this is what is actually meant
Yes, poor Quality.
RBS: I think lancers is the proper classification. If Filipe (pippohispano) is right in attributing the lesser equipment in his ordinance quote below to the equipment of ginetes, they were armed with 20 palm (14 foot) lances:
“In the Ordenação sobreMikeK wrote: If not ET, might note that these are up to 2 pike files flanked by single files of shot, so no more than 4 Shot in total are able to shoot os cavalos e armas (Rules for horses and guns) of D. João III (1549), people of “condition” should have: high saddle, corselet with gorge, thigh and arm protections, sword and 20 palm lance; they could also have cuirass and gineta saddle instead; they could also provide, if they didn’t have the corselet they should have arm protections or an adarga shield instead, plus full head protection.”
Not easy to give them a classification. The spanish ginetes fought with the spear over the shoulder, and using skirmishing tactics. By other hand, a 14 foot lance, seems too large to use it in this way. Is more likely to be used as lance.
I agree with the armoured option, I missed it in the first draft.
MikeK wrote: If not ET, might note that these are up to 2 pike files flanked by single files of shot, so no more than 4 Shot in total are able to shoot
They were a big units, triying to imitate the tercos, but is unlikey that a unit of peasants lightly trained, could make an effective tercio formation.
A big contingent was used in Alcazarquivir, at other times, only a few number of moorish light horse was included in the army. I think that remove the "Only Ksar El Kabir option" will no change significantly the list. Ok for me.RBS: Really? Did they not have any at other times if the Sultans of Fez were tributary?
The numbers of mercenariesNG: Should these have the same BG size and options as Imperial landsknecht keils of the same date?
- 3000 between germans, burgundians and wallons
- 600 Italians
I´m not sure, but it seems that this units were not very large. What do you think?
I added them in the optional troops. I´m sorry is a mistake. They can be removed if the allies are included not only in Ksar al Kabir.Are these needed? Aren’t they represented by the Moroccan allies?
Pippohispano noted, that Cavaleiros Acobertados are removed after the 1549 ordinnance.
↑ cerca de 7000 nobres e homens de armas, Tom Gallagher, "Portugal: a twentieth-century interpretation", p.8, Manchester University Press ND, 1983, ISBN 0-7190-0876-X
Text about Ksar el Kabir 1578 (the original is in Portuguese):
" The Portuguese army in this battle has a fisrt line (vanguard), compossed by the "Aventureiros", commanded by Cristovao de Távora, and the foreing volunteers and mercenary troops. Left wing of heavy cavalry, commanded by the Knig D.Sebastiao, and the right wing of cavalry commanded by Vasco da Silveira. The third line of infantry, commanded by Francisco Tavora. The most of artillery was deployed in first line."
Heavy cavalry appears in this battle although the ordinance of 1549. They don´t appears in Alcantara, but they aren´t compulsory in the list.