[GJS_BA] Invasion

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:59 pm

GottaLove88s wrote:Granfali, Thinking about 2nd turn, do defenders enjoy any advantages? Or is it generally always better to make an attacking move?
It depends of the BG you are moving. Defenders have terrain advantage (ambush possibilities) and all flags except for one are theirs,

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:04 pm

Granfali wrote:It depends of the BG you are moving. Defenders have terrain advantage (ambush possibilities) and all flags except for one are theirs,
So, if you're a defender, you'll start with your units over about 80% of the map, and the attacker will start with 20% or less?
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:40 pm

Yes, more or less.

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:15 am

Granfali wrote:Hello mates,

Once this turn is almost over, I have taken some experiences. Ratio way to deploy and select units in BA battles have been very tedious so I have changed pool so that now every armor, ATG, and support weapon has its specific number: 3 Shermans, 2 Fireflies, 3 mortar, 5 piats, etc... This make easier to pick units in BA, but removes flexibility to choose the support units. Before, 5 support units could be 5 Piats, or 3 HMG and 2 flamethrowers, or 5 mortars, now we have the exact number of each type. Obviously, now if you lose a Sherman, you lose a Sherman, before system was more abstrated.

Other change, I think you'll coincide with me, are mortars. 4 men makes this weapon overpowered, so now it has 3 men.

And finally, 2º Pz Div pass to medium morale and 49 and 43 Div have now more armors.

Rulebook, version 1.1 is now in dropbox folder, please download (in red all changes)

See you

Granfali
Those changes sound sensible... So, if we lose a Firely, we lose a Firely... Going to have to be v careful with our armour, especially with your eighty 75mm Pak40s and fifty 88mms hiding out there!... Seeing those massive German tank numbers per BG, in the Rulebook, makes me wonder how we'll do this, lol... We're definitely going to need more frequent Typhoon refresh!

Thanks for your great work... On to round two... :-)
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:28 pm

Granfali wrote:Other change, I think you'll coincide with me, are mortars. 4 men makes this weapon overpowered, so now it has 3 men.
Hi G, How's it going with Mike in Merville? Almost done yet? We're itching to move into June 6th PM... :mrgreen:

Was thinking about your reduction in mortar crews from 4-men to 3-men...

How many men are there in your AT infantry Piat teams? Can these actually take out a Tiger or Panther now? They're next to useless in ordinary BA... There's a small imbance in HMGs versus AT infantry, where Germans have 60 HMGs and Allies 25, but Allies have 120 Piats and Germans 90 Panzershrek... it would balance out perfectly if AT infantry can actually take out a German heavy tank... but it wouldn't balance if Allied AT infantry are still useless, but 5-man German HMGs prove lethal against our grunts...

:?:
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:54 pm

I think we can end our battle tonight or tomorrow.

Inf AT has 4 men. Piat can can take out a Tiger or Panther with a side or rear shot (more than 50% penetration, 63% if memory doesn't fail), even has a little chance to destroy in a frontal shot (less than 15% I think to remember...). All values are refered to 1 tile range of course.

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:31 pm

Granfali wrote:Inf AT has 4 men. Piat can can take out a Tiger or Panther with a side or rear shot (more than 50% penetration, 63% if memory doesn't fail)
That's great news. Sounds like you've managed to recreate the "damaged the tracks or engine to the point where the crew decide to bail" factor that BA hasn't (yet! ;-)).

Somehow I suspect that these little Piats are rapidly going to become my best friends, to be protected at all costs...

Good luck finishing in Merville.
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by k9mike » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:39 pm

Sorry Granfali if this is getting dragged out...work schedule an my location have made this harder then it needed to be

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:57 pm

Don't fret Mike. Tonight will try to advance some (or all) turns. 4 o'clock for you, 11 for me (more or less).

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:19 am

@Granfali, Where are you getting these maps from? Are you designing each one from scratch prior to every game. They're really very good... and you're doing it very fast! :-)
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:39 am

Most of them are based in another maps. Only some modifications to give an aspect based on GJS Maps for CC5.
I will make them as we need for battles.

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by morge4 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:13 pm

Ok, I'm back and have played my turn...and made a huge screw-up...more in Allied room!

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:04 pm

Merville Battery

Battle finished until the last man. Map taken by british side. II/744/711 is dissolved.
Casualities
Germans
11 VG
1 Mortars
5 MG42
1 Truck
1 PzSchreck
1 Engineer
British
1 Para Inf
1 Engineer
1 Scout
1 Piat

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by k9mike » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:20 pm

Good Battle Granfali. :wink: Didnt think was going to be able to pull that off in the end before time ran out. Lots of units had casualties...was a tough go...lol
Thanks alot for your great and vast work on all of this to make this happen. Great Job!
Mike

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:35 am

Thanks for cc-ing the dice roll G... Clear weather, so Typhoons fly...

evilDM.net wrote:Hello! You're receiving this message because somebody requested that their dice rolls at http://dice.evildm.net/ be sent to you.

Results of Granfali's die rolled on August 26th, 2012 at 21:43:02 GMT

METEO 06PM (1d10): 7

Comments: Online die roll to determinate weather for 06PM
1-7 clear
8-10 overcast
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:40 am

G & Allied team,

Bonuses for June 6th PM:
3/6 Typhoon + Arty
6AL/6 Typhoon + Arty
7/3C Typhoon + Arty
69/50 Arty*
8/3 Arty*
5/6 Arty*

*it's possible that these BGs may not see action but bonuses are use it, or lose it...
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:42 am

@Granfali, thanks for the evilDM dice roll... Neat neutral way to do it...
Is there a similar "closed envelope" system that we can swap our BG orders at exactly the same time?
The Allied commanders will give to me, and then you & I can swap at X hours precisely...
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by Granfali » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:12 am

Not neccesary, I'll send you a file with german orders (password protected), you send me british orders and finally I give you the password. That is the process.

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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by GottaLove88s » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:29 pm

@Granfali, Thanks for the German orders, which I've passed on to the troops... they're as curious as I am.

But Gort's ready to fight when you are! ;-)

Question which may affect our future moves: Can there be more than one action in a section per turn? For example, if 3/6 and 6AL/6 both attack Colombelles, would 192/21Pz have to fight 3/6, and then fight 6AL/6? Or is only 3/6 (highest and rightmost) allowed to make the move, and 6/AL6 is forced to stay where it is?
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Re: [GJS_BA] Invasion

Post by gortwillsaveus » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:34 pm

I'm more than ready Hooora
Granfali,...let me know when I should look for the game. Are we keeping the same password?

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