Killer Player or Killer Army Competition

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:39 pm

KILLER LEADERBOARD

RISE OF ROME
Mid Republican Roman – 2 games left
Pyrrhic – 2 games left
Later Carthaginian - tiavals
Later Seleucid - tiavals
Later Ptolemaic – 2 games left

STORM OF ARROWS
HYW English - aristides
War Roses Lancastrian – 1 game left
War Roses Yorkist – 1 game left
Medieval Welsh - tiavals
Free Company – 7 games left
Swiss – 4 games left

IMMORTAL FIRE
Later Hoplite Greek – 2 games left
Early Achaemenid Persian – flatsix518
Late Achaemenid Persian – 2 games left
Galatian - ferb
Classical Spartan - aristides

SWORDS AND SCIMITARS
Later Crusader – 1 game left
Seljuk Turk – 1 game left
Mamluk Egyptian – 1 game left

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:57 pm

RISE OF ROME
1 Mid Republican Roman (later) – GrudgeBringer, Flatsix518, Jonno, Fedem, BurinusAgricolae
2 Gallic (later lowland) - deleted
3 Pyrrhic – porsenna, Tullius, Gazxtrix, Fedem
4 Later Carthaginian (post 235) – Tiavals, Flatsix518, Gazxtrix, Steve-h8
5 Bosporan - deleted
6 Parthian - deleted
7 Later Seleucid (pre 166) – Tiavals, Jonno, Turk1964, BurinusAgricolae
8 Later Ptolemaic (greek) – Ferb, GrudgeBringer, Tullius, Turk1964

STORM OF ARROWS
1 HYW English (continental early) – iandavidsmith, Fedem, Tullius, Aristides
2 War Roses Lancastrian - Flatsix518, Gazxtrix, Turk1964
3 War Roses Yorkist – stockwellpete, Jonno, iandavidsmith, sharkall, BurinusAgricolae,
Aristides LIST FULL
4 Medieval Welsh – Tiavals, BillMc, Tullius, Turk1964, BurinusAgricolae, stockwellpete LIST FULL
5 Free Company – Tiavals, porsenna, Ferb, Sharkall, GrudgeBringer, Jonno LIST FULL
6 Swiss – Ferb, GrudgeBringer, Flatsix518, Gazxtrix
7 Condotta Milan - deleted
8 Medieval Castilian - deleted

IMMORTAL FIRE
1 Later Hoplite Greek – Fedem, Gazxtrix, Aristides, Tiavals
2 Early Achaemenid Persian (Platea) - Flatsix518, Tullius, Gazxtrix
3 Late Achaemenid Persian – Tiavals, Flatsix518, Jonno
4 Ipsos Alliance Successor – Jonno, Turk1964
5 Galatian – Ferb, GrudgeBringer, Tullius
6 Saka - deleted
7 Classical Indian - deleted
8 Classical Spartan – porsenna, Ferb, GrudgeBringer, Aristides

SWORDS AND SCIMITARS
1 Later Crusader - Flatsix518, GrudgeBringer, Tullius, Stockwellpete, Turk1964
2 Seljuk Turk (Rum) – Fedem, Tullius, Tiavals
3 Nikaian Byzantine - deleted
4 Middle Bulgarian - deleted
5 Mamluk Egyptian – Tiavals, GrudgeBringer, Turk1964, Aristides
6 Khwarazmian - deleted
7 Ayyubid Egyptian (later) - deleted
8 Komnenan Byzantine (later) - deleted

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:59 pm

PLAYERS – Victory Points accrued for each army in brackets

Aristides WotR Yorkist (10, 11, 21, 13), Later Hoplite Greek (22, 18, 12),
Classical Spartan (23, 24, 23), HYW English (21, 19, 18, 21),
Mamluk Egyptian (22, 16, 17)
BillMc Medieval Castilian, Medieval Welsh (27, 24, 22, 22, 15)
BurinusAgricolae Later Seleucid (19, 9, 20), Mid Republican Roman (12, 19,

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WotR Yorkist (20, 17, 12, 14, 21), Medieval Welsh (15, 14, 23, 24, 24)
Fedem Mid Republican Roman (22, 21, 14, 21), HYW English (11, 23, 10),
Later Hoplite Greek (23, 26), Seljuk Turk (19)
Ferb Free Company (18, 16, 12), Swiss (21, 10, 9), Classical Spartan (23, 24, 16),
Galatian (22, 27), Later Ptolemaic (22, 12), Bosporan, Pyrrhic (19)
Flatsix518 Mid Republican Roman (22, 20, 11, 19), Later Carthaginian (14, 24, 23),
WotR Lancastrian (20), Swiss (18), Early Achaemenid Persian (22, 28),
Late Achaemenid Persian (24), Later Crusader (22, 11, 9), Nikaian Byzantine
Gazxtrix Later Carthaginian (14, 13, 17), Pyrrhic (23, 21), WotR Lancastrian (19),
Swiss, Later Hoplite Greek (26), Early Achaemenid Persian (3, 23)
GrudgeBringer Free Company (3), Swiss (8), Later Ptolemaic (19),
Mid Republican Roman (12, 10), Galatian (20, 6),
Classical Spartan (10, 8, 13), Mamluk Egyptian (5, 5),
Later Crusader (9, 6, 17)
iandavidsmith HYW English (21, 6, 9), WotR Yorkist (11, 7, 22, 15, 21)
Jonno Mid Republican Roman (14, 22, 14), Later Seleucid (18, 15,

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WotR Yorkist (12, 12, 8, 10), Free Company (17), Late Achaemenid Persian,
Ipsos Alliance Successor
Porsenna Classical Spartan (15, 20, 12), Pyrrhic (19, 9, 1), Free Company (5, 3, 6)
Sharkall Free Company (19, 8, 19, 18, 21), WotR Yorkist (24, 21, 26, 26, 21)
Steve-h8 Later Carthaginian (9, 14, 24), Gallic
Stockwellpete WotR Yorkist (16, 18, 21, 11, 18), Medieval Welsh (9, 22, 23, 24, 16),
Later Crusader (22, 19, 19, 21)
Tiavals Later Carthaginian (25, 21, 24), Later Seleucid (20, 22, 22),
Medieval Welsh (25, 23, 24, 24, 17), Free Company (22, 16, 21),
Late Achaemenid Persian 17), Later Hoplite Greek (24, 25), Seljuk Turk (19),
Mamluk Egyptian (18, 18, 12)
Tullius Pyrrhic (18, 9), Later Ptolemaic (9, 16), Medieval Welsh (8, 19, 11, 19, 22),
HYW English (10, 18, 7), Early Achaemenid Persian (7, 9), Galatian (3, 18),
Later Crusader (9, 19, 3, 16), Seljuk Turk (12, 10)
Turk1964 Medieval Welsh (23, 20, 18, 8, 15), Later Ptolemaic (21, 23, 23),
Later Seleucid (10, 16, 22), WotR Lancastrian (11, 4),
Ipsos Alliance Successor, Mamluk Egyptian (9, 4),
Later Crusader (13, 18, 21, 20)

Tiavals · Post by **Tiavals** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:25 pm

I'm interested. Probably will participate in each expansion with 2 nations.

iandavidsmith · Post by **iandavidsmith** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:39 pm

Count me in as well Peter
Cheers
Ian

Ferb · Post by **Ferb** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:32 am

I'd be interested. But I'm not sure about 350pts, would have thought the usual 500pts would be better.

Ferb

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:46 am

I am interested in the SOA part of the competition, Peter. WotR Yorkists would be my choice. 350pts is an interesting size of army, I feel. You get some different battlefields as well.

porsenna · Post by **porsenna** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:15 pm

i'm really intrested in it Peter!

please let me know your list for IF and i'll choose..can one player compete in more than one expansion or we have to chose only a single army?

DarkOmen · Post by **DarkOmen** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:39 am

Being very new, I was wondering if the armies you have chosen for the 2 expansions you have listed are:

1. Random (more or less)

2. What you feel are the top 8 armies in strength

3. The top 8 armies at 350 points in strenth (I expect that would be a HUGE factor)

The reason I ask is that I have all but the last 2 expansions and of course I can't play all the armies (even if I did against the AI it wouldn't do much for me). Sooooo, if these are the consensus for the top armies in the 'book', I can look into those armies.

Thanks!!

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:04 am

GrudgeBringer wrote:Being very new, I was wondering if the armies you have chosen for the 2 expansions you have listed are:

1. Random (more or less)

2. What you feel are the top 8 armies in strength

3. The top 8 armies at 350 points in strenth (I expect that would be a HUGE factor)

The reason I ask is that I have all but the last 2 expansions and of course I can't play all the armies (even if I did against the AI it wouldn't do much for me). Sooooo, if these are the consensus for the top armies in the 'book', I can look into those armies.

Thanks!!

I think this is a very interesting question. I think Peter has probably gone for what he regards as some of the strongest armies in the two books, but also he has chosen armies that are quite popular. The SOA list is quite impressive, but I think strong cases could also be made for the Anglo-Irish and Santa Hermandad Nueva Castilians if you were going solely for the strongest armies - and maybe the Medieval Welsh and Milanese Condotta might be the ones to make way. But, irrespective of this, the SOA list that Peter has come up with is a very interesting one.

DarkOmen · Post by **DarkOmen** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:33 pm

Count me in also, might as well take my beaten like a man and get used to some good play from my opponents. Don't count on much from me as I am very new, but I WILL make you earn it.

Thanks guys!!

Sharkall · Post by **Sharkall** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:43 pm

An occasion to go against the good players

I'm in, too, of course. Only for the SOA pack, though.
Any news update on the approximate date of this tournament ?

Too bad SNHC is not in there, but I'll choose two others to practice with

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:52 pm

Thanks for the replies so far.

Answers to some of the questions:-

Choice of armies - it's subjective of course but the clue is in the competion title - I've tried to include both popular armies which 'appear' to be killers and less common ones where perhaps, & again it's just my opinion, more skill is needed to win consistantly. Plus some of my own favs are in there!

350 points was deliberate - I think it gives a faster result, uses less commonly seen maps, & in conjection with the victory points makes for more of a challenge.

You can enter as many expansions as you want but only two armies in any particular expansion, so 2 from RoR, 2 from SoA, 2 from DF etc.

Posting the armies from the next 2 expansions shortly.

However we'll need more players to make this competition viable.

As for the start date - it's as soon as we have 3 players opting for the same army.

BillMc · Post by **BillMc** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:40 am

Count me in for the SOA bracket. Too bad no Highlands Scots I will play wherever you need a fill in - I dont have an army preference.

Bill

Ferb · Post by **Ferb** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:51 am

I'm happy to play any/all of the armies listed for RoR, SoA & IF.

Ferb

Fedem · Post by **Fedem** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:41 am

RISE OF ROME
1 Mid Republican Roman (later)

STORM OF ARROWS
1 HYW English (continental early)

IMMORTAL FIRE
1 Later Hoplite Greek

SWORDS AND SCIMITARS
2 Seljuk Turk (Rum)

Dont have clear how many armies we can pick. But well. This are my choices in order of importance.

Tks!

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:05 am

For each expansion you can play upto two armies.

If you've not made your selection for an army please do so. I'd rather not decide on behalf of anyone please.

As soon as a particular army has 3 players we can start that part so if you genuinely don't mind which army to play then maybe put your name down for one of those which others have selected so far.

Cheers

rexhurley · Post by **rexhurley** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:53 am

Hi Peter,

Im back up now and settled into our new town and my new job, so happy to participate if so I would like to use the following please.

Condotta Milan
Later Hoplite Greek (alternately Early Persians if only one player may take the pick)
Saka
mamelukes

Cheers Rex

Ferb · Post by **Ferb** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:58 am

As we're limited to 2 armies per book here's my choices:

SoA - Free Company & Swiss
IF - Classical Spartan & Galatian
RoR - Later Ptolemaic(Greek) & Bosporan(Mid)

Ferb

Sharkall · Post by **Sharkall** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:59 am

Hello Peter
I'd like to chooose

STORM OF ARROWS
- Free company
- Medieval Castilian

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