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Re: Live Draw for the Themed Event will be on Friday 25th January at 10am (UK time)

Post by stockwellpete » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:00 am

Right, we are ready to start. I will update this post after every fourth player has been drawn out of the hat . . .

Group 1 - iandavidsmith, Brenmusik, dkalenda, phoyle3290.

Group 2 - IMC, Nijis, Barrold713, Nosy_Rat.

Group 3 - pantherboy, Triarii, jjaquemond, hidde.

Group 4 - rexhurley, paulmcneil, schmolywar, edb1815.

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Re: Live Draw for the Themed Event will be on Friday 25th January at 10am (UK time)

Post by stockwellpete » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:19 am

A very interesting draw, I think. In Group 1 there are three players who are currently playing in the lower divisions, so at least one of them will reach the knock-out stage. Nosy_Rat, who is defending two successive wins in this section, is drawn in Group 2 which looks quite tough with both Nijis and IMC currently riding high in the ratings. Group 3 has a really "old veteran" feel about it with pantherboy, Triarii and hidde resuming old rivalries that pre-date both FOG1DL and FOG2DL completely and go right back to the early days of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (LOEG). And finally, Group 4 looks to be a very open contest, although schmolywar, the current leader in Slitherine's automated Xmas tournament, probably starts as the favourite to qualify.

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Re: Divisions for Classical Antiquity . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:30 am

Zardoz02 wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:14 am
LOL so the 'Z' thing doesn't matter any more. So much for 'gaming' my selections...
:lol: It is worse than that because I am afraid that I am going to have to ask you to make a fifth selection as all your four choices were taken! You were seeded number 1 in Division C so you were the last player to have their army allocated. You will need to choose an army from a nation that has not already been selected. I will post up the full army selections shortly.

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Army allocations for Classical Antiquity . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:54 am

Division A
Cunningcairn (3) - Carthaginians (Hannibal in Africa) 202 BC
dkalenda (6) - Seleucids 166-125 BC
harveylh (5) - Romans 105-25 BC
hidde (9) - Macedonians 320-261 BC
klayeckles (7) - Ptolemaics 166-56 BC
nyczar (4) - Greeks 227-146 BC
pantherboy (10) - Achaemenid Persians 480-461 BC
rexhurley (1) - Graeco-Bactrians 250-130 BC
ruskicanuk (8) - Indo-Greeks 175-10 BC
Ulysisgrunt (2) - Jewish 167-111 BC

Division B
devoncop (6) - Carthaginians (Hannibal in Africa) 202 BC
ggarynorman (1) - Indo-Greeks 175-10 BC
Hendricus (3) - Romans 219-200 BC
IMC (10) - Jewish 167-111 BC
Morbio (5) - Samnites 355-272 BC
oscarius (4) - Graeco-Bactrians 250-130 BC
paulmcneil (7) - Armenian, Tigranes 83-69 BC
SpeedyCM (8) - Greeks 460-281 BC
Trogilus (2) - Pergamenes 190-129 BC
XLegione (9) - Galatians 280-63 BC

Division C
Barrold713 (7) - Pontics 110-85 BC
cromlechi (8) - Seleucids 166-125 BC
deve (4) - Ptolemaics 166-56 BC
greekiraklis (3) - Spartans 460-281 BC
herm (9) - Romans 199-106 BC
Najanaja (1) - Carthaginians (Hannibal in Italy) 216-203 BC
SLancaster (6) - Macedonians 320-261 BC
Tiglath (2) - Lydians 550-546 BC
Tresantes (5) - Achaemenid Persians 480-461 BC
Zardoz02 (10) - Lysimachid 320-281 BC

Division D
Bluefin (10) - Gallics 300-101 BC
Geffalrus (1) - Antigonids 320-301 BC
General Shapur (2) - Carthaginians (Hannibal in Africa) 202 BC
Karvon (4) - Graeco-Bactrians 250-130 BC
KiFi (5) - Romans 105-25 BC
MorkinTheFree (8) - Pyrrhics 280-272 BC
phoyle3290 (7) - Macedonians 320-261 BC
SawyerK (3) - Pontics 281-111 BC
sunnyboy (9) - Spanish 300-10 BC
Yaitz331 (6) - Jewish 167-111 BC

Note: the number in brackets after each players name indicates the order in which the armies were allocated to them.

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Re: Army allocations for Classical Antiquity . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:15 am

Just a few statistics for you . . .

In Division A, 7 players got their first choice, 2 got their second choice, 1 got their third choice, 0 used their fourth choice and 0 was asked to make a fifth choice. We can show this as 7-2-1-0-0. For Division B the figures were 8-1-1-0-0; for Division C 7-1-0-1-1; and for Division D 9-1-0-0-0.

So overall, the figures for Classical Antiquity are 31-5-2-1-1, which tells me that the system has worked very well in this instance, with just under 80% of players receiving their first choice army.

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Re: Army allocations for Classical Antiquity . . .

Post by Hendricus » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:36 pm

stockwellpete wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:15 am
Just a few statistics for you . . .

In Division A, 7 players got their first choice, 2 got their second choice, 1 got their third choice, 0 used their fourth choice and 0 was asked to make a fifth choice. We can show this as 7-2-1-0-0. For Division B the figures were 8-1-1-0-0; for Division C 7-1-0-1-1; and for Division D 9-1-0-0-0.

So overall, the figures for Classical Antiquity are 31-5-2-1-1, which tells me that the system has worked very well in this instance, with just under 80% of players receiving their first choice army.
It works superb, it does not even need fine tuning.

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Re: Army allocations for Classical Antiquity . . .

Post by devoncop » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:21 pm

It works superb, it does not even need fine tuning.
Totally agree. A very subtle and effective form of handicapping that still gives the strongest players in each Division almost always one of their preferred top 4 selections.

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Re: Army allocations for Classical Antiquity . . .

Post by Zardoz02 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:02 pm

Hmmm... definitely changing my name to "aardvark".

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Re: Themed Event group stage draw details now available!

Post by jjaquemond » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:54 am

Mon dieu! "old veterans pantherboy, Triarii and hidde!" ALL 3 in my group - hahaha, Jupiter/Mars have mercy on my soul.

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Re: Army allocations for Late Antiquity . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:59 am

Division A
Breogan (1) Spanish (Sertorius) 80-70 BC
Cunningcairn (2) Dacian 89-106 AD
dkalenda (7) Roman 285-378 AD
harveylh (6) Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD
MikeC_81 (8) Arab City 300-633 AD
Nijis (5) Palmyran 258-273 AD
NikiforosFokas (3) Scots-Irish 50BC-476 AD
nyczar (4) Kingdom of Soissons 461-486 AD
pantherboy (10) Breton 411-579 AD
ruskicanuk (9) Ptolemaic 55-30 BC

Division B
Bluefin (1) Visigoths 419-621 AD
devoncop (7) Spanish (Sertorius) 80-70 BC
IMC (10) Galatian 280-63 BC
Morbio (5) Bosporans 84-11 BC
oscarius (4) Lombard 493-567 AD
rexhurley (3) Arab City 300-633 AD
SpeedyCM (8) Sarmatian 350 BC - 24 AD
Trogilus (2) Roman 197-284 AD
XLegione (9) Romano-British 407-599 AD
youngr (6) Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD

Division C
cromlechi (6) Pontic 110-85 BC
edb1815 (9) Arab City 300-633 AD
gamercb (3) Scots-Irish 477-846 AD
ggarynorman (4) Palmyran 258-273 AD
greekiraklis (1) Byzantine 493-550 AD
herm (7) Ostrogoths 493-561 AD
jjaquemond (5) Kingdom of Soissons 461-486 AD
MikeMUC (2) Roman 285-378 AD
Ulysisgrunt (10) Germanic/Gothic Horse Tribes 260-476 AD
Zardoz02 (8) Sassanid Persian 477-590 AD

Division D
Barrold713 (10) Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD
blobka (1) Pictish 210-476 AD
Brenmusik (6) Slave Revolt 73-72 BC
Doyley50 (8) Spanish Sertorius 80-70 BC
Herode_2 (7) Kingdom of Soissons 461-486 AD
MorkinTheFree (4) Ptolemaic 55-30 BC
Rob123 (2) Roman 285-312 AD
SLancaster (9) Seleucid 124-63 BC
sunnyboy (3) Germanic/Gothic Horse Tribes 260-476 AD
Tiglath (5) Kappadokian 260 BC-17 AD

Note: the number in brackets after each players name indicates the order in which the armies were allocated to them.

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Re: Late Antiquity is now full. Reserve places only.

Post by mcpeake » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:04 am

Me too please 1 Roman 197-284,2 Roman 313-378,3 Franks 260-495 and 4 Byzantine 493-550 Cheers

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Re: Army allocations for Late Antiquity . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:05 am

Just a few statistics for you . . .

In Division A, 6 players got their first choice, 4 got their second choice, 0 got their third choice, 0 used their fourth choice and 0 was asked to make a fifth choice. We can show this as 6-4-0-0-0. For Division B the figures were 9-0-0-1-0; for Division C 8-0-0-1-1; and for Division D 7-3-0-0-0.

So overall, the figures for Late Antiquity are 30-7-0-2-1, which again tells me that the system has worked very well, with 75% of players receiving their first choice army and around 92% getting either their first or second choice army.

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Army allocations for Early Middle Ages . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:25 pm

Please note the word "provisional" in the title of this thread. These lists may be subject to change, particularly if an A-rated player takes one of the three remaining places in the next few days.

Division A
Cunningcairn 4.97
dkalenda 6.87
GDod (will move down to Division B if an A-rated player joins in the next few days) 5.14
harveylh 6.76
markwatson360 4.44
NikiforosFokas 5.32
pantherboy 10.30
paulmcneil 4.46
ruskicanuk 9.47
Triarii n/r

Division B
ahuyton 5.33
DzonVejn 4.72
ggarynorman (will move down to Division C if an A or B-rated player joins in the next few days) 2.91
IMC 5.56
melm 4.09
Morbio 4.15
rexhurley 3.82
Ulysisgrunt 4.17
Vacancy
youngr 4.22

Division C
deve n/r
garymann n/r
Geffalrus n/r
greekiraklis n/r
Karvon n/r
MikeMUC 2.57
mkjhartmann n/r
MorkinTheFree n/r
Tiglath n/r
Vacancy


I have put 10 players in the A division, 9 in the B division and 9 in the C division. The reason for this is that I think it more likely that we will recruit players suitable for the B and C divisions now rather than another A-rated player. Again, like in Classical Antiquity, we have had a very small number of A-rated players return from Season 3 (only 3 of them), so this has meant everyone else shifting upwards in the divisions, apart from those players who were relegated.

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Army allocations for Biblical . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:58 pm

Please note the word "provisional" in the title of this thread. These lists may be subject to change, particularly if an A-rated player takes one of the three remaining places in the next few days.

Division A
ahuyton 5.33
harveylh 6.76
ianiow 6.33
klayeckles 7.03
markwatson360 4.44
Nijis 6.20
nyczar 5.40
paulmcneil 4.46
rbodleyscott 5.86
XLegione (will move down to Division B if an A-rated player joins in the next few days) 5.15

Division B
cromlechi (will move down to Division C if an A or B-rated player joins in the next few days) 3.33
Cunningcairn 4.97
edb1815 3.61
GDod 5.14
Hendricus 3.63
Jagger2002 n/r
Morbio 4.15
SpeedyCM 4.91
Ulysisgrunt 4.17
Vacancy

Division C
Barrold713 3.18
deve n/r
gamercb 2.67
General Shapur n/r
greekiraklis n/r
MikeMUC 2.57
Tiglath n/r
Yaitz331 n/r
Vacancy
Vacancy

I have put 10 players in the A division, 9 in the B division and 8 in the C division. The reason for this is that I think it more likely that we will recruit players suitable for the B and C divisions now rather than another A-rated player. Again, like in Classical Antiquity, we have had a very small number of A-rated players return from Season 3 (only 4 of them), so this has meant everyone else shifting upwards in the divisions, apart from those players who were relegated.

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Army allocations for Early Middle Ages . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:05 am

Army allocations for Early Middle Ages

Division A
Cunningcairn (4) Lombard 568-569 AD
dkalenda (8) Hun, Sabir 463-558 AD
GDod (5) Hepthalite 350-570 AD
harveylh (7) Sassanid Persian 591-628 AD
markwatson360 (2) Byzantine 551-578 AD
NikiforosFokas (6) Romano-British 407-599 AD
pantherboy (10) Breton 411-579 AD
paulmcneil (3) Armenian 477-627 AD
ruskicanuk (9) Arab (City) 300-633 AD
Triarii (1) Arab (Bedouin) 300-636 AD

Division B
ahuyton (8) Breton 411-579 AD
DzonVejn (7) Arab (City) 300-633 AD
gamercb (10) Franks 496-599 AD
ggarynorman (1) Byzantine 551-578 AD
IMC (9) Visigoth 419-621 AD
melm (3) Sassanid Persian 591-628 AD
Morbio (4) Lombard 493-567 AD
rexhurley (2) Moorish 350-698 AD
Ulysisgrunt (5) Indian 546-599 AD
youngr (6) Romano-British 407-599 AD

Division C
desertedfox (10) Franks 496-599 AD
deve (2) Sassanid Persian 591-628 AD
garymann (5) Ostrogoth 493-561 AD
Geffalrus (9) Breton 411-579 AD
greekiraklis (3) Byzantine 493-550 BC
Karvon (6) Moorish 350-698 AD
MikeMUC (8) Arab (City) 300-633 AD
mkjhartmann (1) Scots-Irish 477-846 AD
MorkinTheFree (4) Romano-British 407-599 AD
Tiglath (7) Indian 546-599 AD



Note: the number in brackets after each players name indicates the order in which the armies were allocated to them. I have been a bit looser in my definition of armies from the "same nation" in this section as there are far fewer armies available for selection until we get the next DLC. So Hepthalites and Sabir are treated as separate nations even though they previously were Huns and similarly I have treated Bedouin Arabs and City Arabs as two distinct nations this time. We can re-visit this in the future.

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Re: Provisional divisions for Biblical . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:50 am

Army allocations for Biblical

Division A
ahuyton (4) Phokian 550-461 BC
harveylh (9) Median 626-550 BC
ianiow (8) Egyptian 664-571 BC
klayeckles (10) Assyrian 681-609 BC
markwatson360 (1) Lydian 550-546 BC
Nijis (7) Achaemenid Persians 545-481 BC
nyczar (5) Urartian 681-585 BC
paulmcneil (2) Syracusan 550-461 BC
rbodleyscott (6) Cypriot 549-490 BC
stockwellpete (10) Carthaginian 550-411 BC

Division B
Cunningcairn (8) Lydian 550-546 BC
edb1815 (3) Achaemenid Persian 545-481 BC
GDod (9) Syracusan 550-461 BC
Hendricus (4) Phoenician 681-539 BC
Jagger2002 (1) Assyrian 681-609 BC
Morbio (5) Thracian 680-351 BC
SpeedyCM (7) Median 626-550 BC
Ulysisgrunt (6) Hebrew 681-586 BC
XLegione (3) Phoenician 681-539 BC
Vacancy (10)

Division C
Barrold713 (8) Babylonian 626 -539 BC
cromlechi (2) Cypriot 549-490 BC
desertedfox (10) Carthaginian 550-411 BC
deve (1) Lydian 550-546 BC
gamercb (7) Thracian 680-351 BC
General Shapur (2) Spartan 680-551 BC
greekiraklis (5) Egyptian 570-525 BC
MikeMUC (6) Achaemenid Persians 545-481 BC
Tiglath (4) Assyrian 681-609 BC
Yaitz331 (3) Hebrew 681-586 BC

Note: the number in brackets after each players name indicates the order in which the armies were allocated to them.

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Re: Army allocations for Early Middle Ages . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:26 am

Just a few statistics for you . . .

In Division A, 8 players got their first choice, 1 got their second choice, 1 got their third choice, 0 used their fourth choice and 0 was asked to make a fifth choice. We can show this as 8-1-1-0-0. For Division B the figures were 7-1-0-1-0; and for Division C 7-0-1-0-0.

So overall, the figures for Early Middle Ages are 22-2-2-1-0, which tells me that the system has worked very well in this instance, with just over 80% of players receiving their first choice army.

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Re: Army allocations for Biblical . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:30 am

Just a few statistics for you . . .

In Division A, 8 players got their first choice, 1 got their second choice, 0 got their third choice, 1 used their fourth choice and 0 was asked to make a fifth choice. We can show this as 8-1-0-1-0. For Division B the figures were 6-2-1-0-0; and for Division C 6-1-1-0-0.

So overall, the figures for Biblical are 20-4-2-1-0, which tells me that the system has worked very well in this instance, with just under 75% of players receiving their first choice army.

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Re: Tournament Diary and News . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:40 am

All the divisions and army selections have now been posted. There are still three vacancies in both Early Middle Ages and Biblical and the divisional line-ups may be subject to change right up to the end of Thursday 31st January. However, the army allocations will not change so the armies you have been given now will be the armies you will be using in the tournament. Regarding the vacant places, I will do everything I can to fill them as quickly as possible. We can actually add players up to the second Time Control check at the half-way stage so that gives us just under 6 weeks to get the extra players.

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Biblical is now full . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:13 pm

There is one space in our Biblical section Division B. Go to . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=90111 for details.

If you are interested in joining the tournament please post your name in this thread. I will then send you an army list by private message (PM).

The tournament starts on Friday February 1st and runs for 10 weeks until Sunday 14th April. You will be required to play 9 matches in each section you enter.

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