This is surely a bug?

[MaxDoge]

Just realized that all of my strategic bombers can sort of scan city hexes and airfields for enemy units, I noticed that earlier but wasn't really paying any attention to it. Even though I don't have vision of those hexes I'm still getting the real battle odds like you can see in the screenshot. Because of this now I know that there's an AA on that airfield, and that the two airfields south along with some cities are completely empty. Feels bad man.

[PeteMitchell]

Yes, some planes show it... not sure why though?

[goose_2]

Yes, some planes show it... not sure why though?

This is a bug that came when 1.30 came out as prior to this update the game did not show prediction until you moved the unit to the position to attack, now the prediction shows prior to moving the unit...ergo you now have blind predictions of units you do not see, but the computer parameters see.

[MaxDoge]

That's a bummer. I'll try not to abuse it then, since I'm on my first GC playthrough and it's a blast playing it blind.

[PeteMitchell]

...and I can confirm that the patch 1.31 hasn't fixed it yet.

[goose_2]

...and I can confirm that the patch 1.31 hasn't fixed it yet.

The only thing that, that update fixed was some sub attack skill that modders were wanting

[PeteMitchell]

Yeah, wasn't there also something around AI planes returning to airfields, not sure anymore. I had just downloaded it because McGuba had recommended it I think...

[turn4441]

No unit can attack a unit in a hex that isn't within it's (or another friendly unit's) spotting range. However, because strategic bombers can attack (and neutralize) flagged hexes whether occupied or not, and those hexes have been 'spotted' (i.e., it is known where the city/airfield target is from a map even if they aren't in sighting range and they don't move like other units), they get the combat odds if there is a unit in the hex, not because they are able to 'see' the unit but because they are allowed to attack the hex and there just happens to be a unit there. They do not get it for flag hexes with no unit in it or for any unflagged hexes where there are units which they can't attack without seeing. It's not so much a glitch as an unfortunate meshing of unit capabilities (carpet bombing to neutralize a flag hex) and a desire to allow people to see potential outcomes without having to move and then undo numerous times in order to see potential combat outcomes, which was the case prior to the update which gave these 'without move' predictions.

[MaxDoge]

Sounds like a relatively simple thing to fix for the developers, if they're aware of it.

[turn4441]

Despite it's popularity, I doubt they'll be bothering to do anymore updates to an 8 year old game, especially as they're focusing on PC II now. (Yay! I finally got rid of my 8Rad and moved up to a mighty Panzer IIC. Oh, yeah.)

[huckc]

Sounds like a relatively simple thing to fix for the developers, if they're aware of it.

Depends on the code. Could be trivial, could require a major re-factor involving many areas of code, could be somewhere in between.

Then there's the release...

[frugivore]

I wonder if this feature indicates that another aircraft is stationed above the hex. In any case, now that we know about it, we can't just not avail ourselves of it.

I started playing recently so I'm glad I don't have to move, check the combat prediction and then info the move. That would be very frustrating.

[turn4441]

I wonder if this feature indicates that another aircraft is stationed above the hex.

No, it is a ground unit because strategic bombers cannot attack other air units, only defend when attacked, so they would not get a combat prediction except for a unit they could attack.

[PeteMitchell]

It's a ground unit for sure, you won't see enemy aircrafts... you will just bump into them... "unexpected encounter"... if it is an enemy fighter, then it's like an ambush for ground units...

[frugivore]

Thanks guys. That makes sense. I'll assume that if there is no prediction there is no ground unit and/or just an air unit. Er... I mean it doesn't matter because I won't do the check with my strat bomber anyways.

It's a ground unit for sure, you won't see enemy aircrafts... you will just bump into them... "unexpected encounter"... if it is an enemy fighter, then it's like an ambush for ground units...

I wonder if this feature indicates that another aircraft is stationed above the hex.

No, it is a ground unit because strategic bombers cannot attack other air units, only defend when attacked, so they would not get a combat prediction except for a unit they could attack.

[TheBushmaster]

this is game is still BUGGED?

WOW

is this major or are there bigger?

[PeteMitchell]

this is game is still BUGGED?

WOW

is this major or are there bigger?

Some people would say this is not a bug but a feature... however, there are still some bugs with MP (and big maps)...