The Dustbin

[General Shapur]

Division B

General Shapur - Carthaginian 550-411 BC defeats uneducated - Hebrew 681-586 BC - 43-14

Thanks for an enjoyable game

[General Shapur]

Div D

General Shapur - Kingdom of Soissons 461-486 AD challenges
eobrian2 - Kushan 130 BC-478 AD
lydianed - Gepid 493-567 AD
phoyle3290 - Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD
Rob123 - Romano-British 407-599 AD
SawyerK - Ptolemaic 55-30 BC

password 4321 - PM sent

[desertedfox]

Div C

desertedfox - Byzantine 988-1041 AD defeated Rob123 - Indian 320-545 AD 49 to 12.

Thx for a quick but none the less interesting game Rob.

[Geffalrus]

Div B

devoncop (Dailami) beat Youngr (Achaemenid Persians) 60% to 31%.

The hilly rocky desert map with a stream through the middle did the Persian Jumbo's no favours at all.

Thanks to Youngr for a great battle against the odds !

I think you mean - Sassanid - Persians.

[sunnyboy]

Division B

sunnyboy (Byzantine 740-903AD) beat devoncop (Dailami 928-1055 AD & Khorasanian 821-1003 AD Allies) 64-46

The fortunes of both sides waxed and waned over the course of the battle; the advantage early was with the Dailami who won the cavalry fight. However, the Byzantine skoutatoi crushed their opponents in the centre of the field and began plodding across the map trying to catch their nimbler opponents. Fortuitously on turn 24, the sole remaining unit of Tagmata lancers was able flank and rout a unit of Ghilman and a unit of light cavalry reaching the magical 60% at the death.

Thanks for an enjoyable game!

[SpeedyCM]

Division B

SpeedyCM - (Rus 960-1053 AD & Polish 966-1057 AD allies) defeated devoncop (Dailami 928-1055 AD & Khorasanian 821-1003 AD Allies) 45-12

[stockwellpete]

This is a no-brainer as far as I am concerned. The Allies feature is an excellent addition to FOG2 and I would recommend that we roll it out right across the tournament from Season 6. This season it is just being trialled in Early Middle Ages. The poll will run for 2 weeks and players may change their vote if they wish to.

[devoncop]

100% Yes from me.

[Geffalrus]

I like the option, even if there will be times when I will choose not to have allies for various reasons.

Edit: I will, of course, be lobbying for the Antigonids to get some Greek allies.

[SnuggleBunnies]

The one problem I see with the feature is that it can make armies less unique. For example the Viking army tends to be based on heavy infantry shieldwalls. Pick French allies, however, and you have effective heavy infantry and an effective heavy cavalry wing. Is increasing this level of army flexibility desirable? I'm not sure, it depends on what people are looking for in league play...

[Geffalrus]

The one problem I see with the feature is that it can make armies less unique. For example the Viking army tends to be based on heavy infantry shieldwalls. Pick French allies, however, and you have effective heavy infantry and an effective heavy cavalry wing. Is increasing this level of army flexibility desirable? I'm not sure, it depends on what people are looking for in league play...

It might make certain mono-chromatic army lists a bit more competitive or at least more likely to find use in the league. I'd consider the Illyrian list if it had access to Greek or Gallic allies providing heavy cavalry and/or heavy infantry.

[cromlechi]

Division C

cromlechi - Scots-Irish 50 BC - 476 AD defeats Doyley50 - Roman 24 BC-196 AD score = 61-38

Good game, Romans got caught from two side in the end which proved decisive but put up a good fight.

[IMC]

Hi folks

Group 2 "The Wars of Alexander" (334-323 BC)

2. IMC (Macedonian 355-329 BC) beat 4. XLegione (Achaemenid Persian 419-329 BC) 44% v 19%

Thanks for the game

IMC

[devoncop]

Division B

devoncop (Dailami/Khorasanian allies ) drew with Geffalrus (Polish/Viking Allies) 22% to 40%

Early Dailami success in peppering the Polish line rapidly turned into something else entirely as the Viking Huscarls and Polish Lancers drove unstoppably forward...a general retreat was ordered to save whatever could be saved and the Poles were only a turn or 2 away from total victory but nightfall saved the Dailami and their exhausted horses.....

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[Geffalrus]

Division B

devoncop (Dailami/Khorasanian allies ) drew with Geffalrus (Polish/Viking Allies) 22% to 40%

Early Dailami success in peppering the Polish line rapidly turned into something else entirely as the Viking Huscarls and Polish Lancers drove unstoppably forward...a general retreat was ordered to save whatever could be saved and the Poles were only a turn or 2 away from total victory but nightfall saved the Dailami and their exhausted horses.....

Here is the moment at which the Polish cavalry turned about and charged the Dailami, while the Viking allied foot flooded out of a nearby forest to add to the general chaos.

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Results recorded up to here.

[Rob123]

Rob123 (Indian) challenges batesmotel - (Khorasanian 821-1003 AD) (Dailami 928-1055 AD allies)

PW Khor PM sent

[Geffalrus]

Group 2 "Wars of Alexander"

Geffalrus (Thracian-Triballi) defeats XLegione (Persians) 40-15

A tense chess match from beginning to end. Thank you to my opponent for a very good game.

After crossing the Hellespont, the Triballi guarded one flank of Alexander's army as it marched towards Sardis. While the main army dealt with a Persian Satrap host at the Battle of Granicus, the Triballi confronted a Persian relief column near the coast. Protected from the Persian cavalry by the sea on one side, and a large forest on the other, the Triballi surged forward with their warbands to engage the Persian archers and Takabara foot. The lines lengthened as the Persians backpedaled furiously, but eventually, they could go no farther, and the Triballi charged, demolishing the weaker Persian infantry without much trouble. The mercenary hoplites and Persian Cavalry faced off with the Thracian spears for an awkward amount of time as neither side really wanted to risk a confrontation. As the dust from the far flank cleared, the Royal Persian statisticians concluded that the army had taken too great a losses compared to how much damage they had dealt in return. In good order, the hoplites and Cavalry retreated from the field to fight another day. The Triballi got drunk in celebration.

Takabara foot and massed archers brace for impact.......

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Geffalrus and IMC have qualified for the Knock-out stage from Group 2.

[sunnyboy]

Division C

Sunnyboy (Ostrogoths 493-561 AD) beat gamercb (Romano-British 407-599 AD) 48-22

The Romano-British pressed strongly on the left and began to make slow progress, breaking some of the Gothic lancers late in proceedings. Fortunately, the Ostrogoth successes elsewhere secured the win.

Thanks for the game!

[MorkinTheFree]

Division C: MorkinTheFree - Pyrrhic 280-272 BC drew with Geffalrus - Antigonid 320-301 BC score 55-53.

Great game with many turns, one turn even routed enemy 60+%, but Antigonids rallied to below 50%... Dramatic. I regret there is no replay function, this would surely be the game to keep.

Result reported twice

[Geffalrus]

Division C

Geffalrus (Antigonid) and MorkinTheFree (Pyrrhic) fight to a bloody, apocalyptic draw of 55-53. Tip of the hat to my opponent for an incredible match.

Buckle up folks, here comes the story. For unknown reasons, we decided to fight over a hilly area at the base of a mountain. I guess I was trying to tell him to stay the f#$@ out of Macedon, but I'm not sure it stuck. The mountain featured a small indirect pass that allowed units to ride way around and outflank the other army. Both Morkin and I recognized this, we both sent cavalry to exploit it, and both realized that our sneaky plan was foiled. So back to the main battle we went.

Morkin's army had a much larger infantry force. MUCH larger. To win, I hoped to leverage my superior pikes to beat his pikes, and my Thureos to thrash his Italian Foot and thus claim the large patch of rough terrain in the center. That plan worked........sort of. I was able to overcome his Average Pikes.......eventually, but my Thureos got out of position killing a few Italians, and were in turn swarmed by a tide of hungry hungry hoplites. Backed up by conscript pikes, Morkin's meaty right fist landed on my weakening left flank and smashed it to bits. And before my victorious cavalry and phalanx could reform a new battle line, the hungry hungry hoplites swarmed them. And so it became a race. Trapped between Morkin's returning cavalry and his avenging hoplites, my remaining pikes and cavalry now tried to crush Morkin's cavalry and make a stand on the high ground of the mountain pass.

Once again, I failed to overrun Morkin's forces fast enough, and while I succeeded in putting all of his cavalry to flight, Morkin's hoplites caught me for what felt like the twentieth time. Before they could form square, pike units were flanked and routed. Finally, the Antigonid Royal Guard formed up in square on a hill to buy time while the rest of the army escaped. Surrounded by the Epirote horde, the veteran pikes held out (barely) until nightfall. Meanwhile, throughout ALL OF THIS, an Antigonid catapult crew sat alone and unused behind a few trees back in the start zone. The Antigonid general.......had perhaps not realized that trees block catapult shots, and so the artillery crew spent the entire battle doing absolutely nothing. Then again, maybe they were better off considering what happened to everyone else.......

The field of slaughter as darkness falls:

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