Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

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Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by Andy2012 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:22 pm

'Vith notable exceptions, ze var has been running very vell for ze Reich...' :mrgreen:

Well, the Wehrmacht is getting crushed and is retreating everywhere while a massive international coalition is preparing an assault on occupied Europe.
Meanwhile, you run out of fuel and men and tanks and territory and ammo. At least the Schnapps supply looks good.
Let's see if we can turn this around...

As usual, I will post a playthrough and discuss my core composition and upgrades here. I may even post a screenshot or two for demonstration. (Yay, novelty.)
This may take a while since I am drowning in real life work and cant play OoB 24/7. But I have played the whole campaign in beta, so this should progress well.
All comments welcome, post your own thoughts, praise and criticism alike, here. And let's keep it civil. :D

Meanwhile, for those who cant wait or want to get into the spirit of the DLC, I higly recommend this documentary / lecture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVo5I0xNRhg

All watch, subscribe and enjoy! :D

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Post by 13obo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:45 pm

Love these topics after a new DLC, Andy. Thanks! Will be giving my impressions here and I'll be posting the usual ego-boost self-slap-on-the-back replay on 5th difficulty with general scenario tips too.

Btw, does anyone know if there is a way to do the Italy Anzio scenario without majorly ruining the win in Russia?

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by kondi754 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:13 pm

Andy2012 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:22 pm
[...]

Meanwhile, for those who cant wait or want to get into the spirit of the DLC, I higly recommend this documentary / lecture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVo5I0xNRhg

All watch, subscribe and enjoy! :D
@Andy, This is you? :mrgreen: Honestly, I imagined you differently - rather as a crazy intellectual, and here I see the combination of Vinnie Jones with Jason Statham... :lol: 8)

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by bebro » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:26 pm

Andy2012 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:22 pm
At least the Schnapps supply looks good.
:D

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by Andy2012 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:27 pm

kondi754 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:13 pm


@Andy, This is you? :mrgreen: Honestly, I imagined you differently - rather as a crazy intellectual, and here I see the combination of Vinnie Jones with Jason Statham... :lol: 8)
No, I just happen to like that channel. That guy is working pretty hard and I did learn a thing or two. :shock:
I do have way more hair and less of an intense stare 8) - and I would never compromise myself and my sparkling clean reputation with a public youtube channel. As any self-respecting, crazy intellectual, I post my content on pornhub. Less hassle, better viewer numbers. :mrgreen:

Anyways, I will start with a Panzerkrieg core. If anybody tries a Sandstorm core, please tell me about it.
Also, my core will be from an experiment I took (for the closed beta forums): I only used regular reinforcements and spurned elite replacements. That gave me a lot of extra cash to buy the finest equipment the Wehrmacht has to offer. My core is less experienced, especially my infantry, but it was well worth it.
Feel free to discuss this. It might actually take a while to play the first mission of the final product, but definitely this week. :D

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by CoolDTA » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:55 pm

Andy2012 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:27 pm
Less hassle, better viewer numbers. :mrgreen:
Definitely. :lol:
Andy2012 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:27 pm
Anyways, I will start with a Panzerkrieg core. If anybody tries a Sandstorm core, please tell me about it.
Also, my core will be from an experiment I took (for the closed beta forums): I only used regular reinforcements and spurned elite replacements. That gave me a lot of extra cash to buy the finest equipment the Wehrmacht has to offer. My core is less experienced, especially my infantry, but it was well worth it.
Do you mean you will use regulars in Endsieg or that you have used them to build your core in Blitz/Panzerkrieg? Anyway, I'm very interested to see how that goes. :)

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Post by Andy2012 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:05 pm

@CoolDTA: I built my core over Blitzkrieg, Panzerkrieg only with regular reinforcements. I will now use this core for Endsieg. Inf has around 1 -1,5 star exp, tanks 4-5, arty and fighters 5. This approach is surprisingly effective, provided you use your AT (Stugs) right. And gives you a lot of extra cash.

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Post by 13obo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:11 pm

I'm planning to use the default core. I find importing one to be too strong, not because of the experience, but because of all the leaders which buff units tremendously (especially the +shock value ones).

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by Andy2012 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:40 pm

13obo wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:11 pm
I'm planning to use the default core. I find importing one to be too strong, not because of the experience, but because of all the leaders which buff units tremendously (especially the +shock value ones).
This could be interesting. Even though I think you do get the option to earn the all the leaders if you start with a default core.
And as far as I remember, only Guderian has +shock effect - and I usually put him in a tank, which I dont use that much in defensive missions. Sometimes, I even leave my tank force undeployed.

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Post by 13obo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:00 pm

Ah, it's great to know you can get most of them during the missions. I think in Sandstorm, the player had 2 shock attack leaders- one for Italy and one for Germany. The player gets too many of them and you can outfit almost all of your mechanical units with one.

Anyway, I'm not suggesting players should start without their past core- after all, the appeal of these games is the RPG element of nurturing a core force from start to finish. I was just giving my 2 cents how I'd like to play.

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by kondi754 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:17 pm

Attention :!: :!: :!: :idea:
Before you start playing, you need to change the unit.csv file
You will notice that there is no Fw 190F available to buy when you start Endsieg. There is an error in the game file, please delete the date "1943" ...
Fw 190F is a very universal and powerful weapon, so this is important information for those who will not import core from PK (where Fw 190F was available) :)
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Post by airbornemongo101 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:27 pm

Thx Kondi..good pickup..awesome work


Also ,does anybody know,did they fix the Waffen SS III specialty?

I would like to know what is supposed to be the final cp for the Waffen SS once you get the 3rd specialty...
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Post by kondi754 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:24 pm

Fw 190G (line below), you may set the starting date to 1/10/1943, it was a version with an increased range which coexisted with the F version from October 1943
This model will also be available in the game (is slightly more expensive)

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Post by kondi754 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:30 pm

airbornemongo101 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:27 pm
Thx Kondi..good pickup..awesome work


Also ,does anybody know,did they fix the Waffen SS III specialty?

I would like to know what is supposed to be the final cp for the Waffen SS once you get the 3rd specialty...
It is fixed, 18 CP I suppose... (6/12/18)

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by Oleksandr » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:49 pm

kondi754 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:17 pm
Attention :!: :!: :!: :idea:
Before you start playing, you need to change the unit.csv file
You will notice that there is no Fw 190F available to buy when you start Endsieg. There is an error in the game file, please delete the date "1943" ...
Fw 190F is a very universal and powerful weapon, so this is important information for those who will not import core from PK (where Fw 190F was available) :)
Is 1943 an expiry date in this case? Meaning that this plane will never be available?

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Post by airbornemongo101 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:54 pm

@Thx Kondi..again


@Oleksandr..yes that's what it looks like..so if you delete that "separate 1943" the F-190f should still be be available
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Post by kondi754 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:55 pm

In addition, the entry itself is incorrect, it must be entered in the format "dd/mm/yyyy", otherwise it doesn't work ...

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by airbornemongo101 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:41 pm

kondi754 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:55 pm
In addition, the entry itself is incorrect, it must be entered in the format "dd/mm/yyyy", otherwise it doesn't work ...

Ahhh...lends more truth to the adage that you learn something new every day...thank you sir
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Post by kondi754 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:52 pm

No problem :)

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Re: Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss

Post by hrafnkolbrandr » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:31 pm

Apparently you need to be losing for Germany to develop nukes?

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