Favorite Army

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Favorite Army

Post by AlexDetrojan » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:08 am

What is your favorite army and why? Doesn't matter which time period, from approx. 1500-1700. What factors influenced your choice? Was it just from playing one so much that you got comfortable with it? Or perhaps a certain historical period appealed to you? Or maybe you were more the type that enjoyed playing underdog armies against all odds? Would be glad to hear your choices. Also would like to hear Richard Bodley Scotts choice, as this is his baby after all. As for my self, I've become appreciative of late of the wild Zaporozhian Cossacks, very different from the run of the mill Western European Pike and Shot brutes. Also I immensely enjoy Louis XIV's French army, but for me they are devilishly tricky to win with.
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by Pixel » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:52 am

French (Italian Wars) with their big blocks of Swiss Cheese and nice Gendarmes. Also partial to the Ottomans and the Polish.
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by Pixel » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:57 am

I also think that the Huguenot French are fun to play as in some of the Tercio to Salvo scenarios.
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by rbodleyscott » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm

My favourite is Transylvanians.
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by AlexDetrojan » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:21 pm

Pixel wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:52 am
French (Italian Wars) with their big blocks of Swiss Cheese and nice Gendarmes. Also partial to the Ottomans and the Polish.
So you're fond of those big Swiss Pike blocks then? Ottomans are a potent army, not too fond of fighting against them though...

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by AlexDetrojan » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:22 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm
My favourite is Transylvanians.
How come the Transylvanians Richard?

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:25 am

It would be impossible for me to pick one favorite, but a few standouts -

The early English lists with their mix of bows, bills, and arquebus
Russian lists, with Bardiche and Arquebus armed Streltsy acting as an anchor for Bow armed, armored cavalry, supported by lance and bow armed cossack light horse
And of course the Swedes with their Salvo foot.

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by AlexDetrojan » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:32 am

SnuggleBunnies wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:25 am
It would be impossible for me to pick one favorite, but a few standouts -

The early English lists with their mix of bows, bills, and arquebus
Russian lists, with Bardiche and Arquebus armed Streltsy acting as an anchor for Bow armed, armored cavalry, supported by lance and bow armed cossack light horse
And of course the Swedes with their Salvo foot.
SnuggleBunnies those are some good picks, especially the Russians. But tell me, you like the mixed English units with Bills and such, But how do you play them successfully? I find when I play them against Continental armies of the same period, they get out shot and out melee'd. What is your secret to success with them? Just curious.

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by rbodleyscott » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:00 am

AlexDetrojan wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:22 pm
rbodleyscott wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm
My favourite is Transylvanians.
How come the Transylvanians Richard?
I am just a vampire at heart. And I can make the troop combination work, given a reasonable amount of terrain on the map.

Beware the Transylvanian forest! (Especially within a 20 mile radius around Castle Dracula).
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:15 pm

Terrain is key, and English armies do very well against armies not based on pike keils. But you did say favorite armies, not best armies; I just enjoy playing with them, even though they are rather bad.

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by AlexDetrojan » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:24 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:00 am
AlexDetrojan wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:22 pm
rbodleyscott wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm
My favourite is Transylvanians.
How come the Transylvanians Richard?
I am just a vampire at heart. And I can make the troop combination work, given a reasonable amount of terrain on the map.

Beware the Transylvanian forest! (Especially within a 20 mile radius around Castle Dracula).
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by Pixel » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:55 am

I knew someone would pick Transylvanians.
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by AlexDetrojan » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:45 pm

Pixel wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:55 am
I knew someone would pick Transylvanians.
I've as yet to play them, what's so fascinating about them, other than their leader Vlad being the Halloween yard decorating champion? :wink:
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by Pixel » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:22 am

They are a somewhat tricky army to play especially against some of the more powerhouse army lists. Limited amounts of Pike but the Transylvanians do get a option for Haiduks (some of the nicer muskeeter type units) etc. in one of the modules at least. Additionally, a mix of Boyars (Armored Lancer, Gendarme Style) and lots of Hussars make Vlad's hordes a somewhat cavalry focused army.
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Re: Favorite Army

Post by awesum4 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:01 am

I love Scots border raiders, the earlier army. There is normally 1 compulsory average cavalry lance, the rest of the army is light horse with light lance, crossbow and sword. If you have a fairly open battlefield they are deadly. Very mobile so you decide where the fighting takes place, has heaps of shooting, can withdraw if getting outshot, and their charge is devastating if you find an exposed flank or rear, which there are normally plenty of.

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by ahuyton » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:30 pm

Very hard question. Personally I like an ECW Royalist army with cavaliers, but they can be difficult against all the parliamentarian shot.

In the 30YW period, I would go with the early Protestants, but not because they are any good (they may be, I cannot tell) but they have a certain romantic appeal.

Finally I can endorse awesum4's remarks about the border raiders - I only played them once, but it was lots of fun.

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Re: Favorite Army

Post by GDod » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:02 am

I know they're a populist vote but still, you can't go past a Polish Winged Hussar in recharge mode Alan...if you can time them right they are pure poetry in motion!
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