There is a beta patch, being played by beta testers!

I'm fine with calling it quits!

One can also see Geffalrus is sending you gold from his screenshots. That confused me initially too....I put that to the Antigonids and they denied sending money...... The screenshot actually says "Antigonus of the Seleucids" sent the money. If I remember correctly the Seleucids are now being ruled...

This is not a huge deal killer with me as yet, as I am still caught up in the single player campaign, but I get this message every time I try to check out multiplayer:

OK I give up on this one. It's like Omaha Beach, only 20 times worse. Anyone beat this, and how???

The Indus is back in Macedonian hands, just as Alexander intended. It takes quite a while for the sun to set on the Seleucid Empire....... 20190910163713_1.jpg The SEL-SAK border is in a pretty good place, IMO, right on the edge of the dreaded steppes. The only thing that remains to be seen is whet...

Sounds reasonable, and since Judea is on board, great. The province is nice, but the Temple more important I'd say.

I'll probably need to do the heavy lifting here next, and direct my army to take down the ARA doomstack. So I will plot accordingly ...

If peace offers are on the way from Ptolemy already, well, that’s good news, we are most of the way towards a resolution.

I gather then the only remaining sticking point is Jerusalem. I can sympathize with the Judean position, a Judea without the Temple isn’t quite Judea.

The upgrades are Tier III Culture structures, so you do also need 6 purple buildings present; ie, the Temple, capital, your Synagogue and 3 other Culture structures.

13obo wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:45 am

Btw I often find that I cannot abandon a region conquered on the previous turn. Is there something I'm missing? Some precondition I haven't met?

The only preconditions are that the region must be under 50 Loyalty, and you need an army to trigger it, and plot to move out on the same turn.

War update: Arabia has been a busy little beaver this turn, taking both Galillea and Samaria, while Ptolemy stormed Jerusalem. Oh, and some strange men painted in blue who call themselves Picts unsuccessfully raided Gallilea from the sea: Capture.JPG Because Arabia now holds much of the disputed ter...

Also, perhaps further Judean compensation could come from Arabian territories. Arabia has become an overly huge blob which likes to raid people indiscriminately, and frankly I would prefer Judea as a southern neighbor.

Admittedly I'm an overly huge blog myself, but at least we don't raid.

I'll go minor this time too, and try my hand at Armenia. Will the other game be discontinued?

I must confess the cessation of Sinai seems excessive, especially as the metal deposits there are vital and irreplaceable for Egypt. In fact I'm a bit surprised those mines have remained independent and hence unusable by anyone thus far. The Antigonid proposal seems reasonable to me as a basis for d...

devoncop wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:03 am

Well a Seleucid total conquest of both Judea and Egypt would achieve the latter aim......

Don't take a job as a social worker Jim.....your "reassurance skills" need a bit of work

Ugh, too much hassle!

The Saka continue to resist despite being hammered by attacks from both the Seleucids and the Antigonids and a large Judean pirate fleet is sunk by the Egyptian navy off the Levant. Saka has requested peace, and we are unhurriedly considering our response. I can’t speak for the Antigonids, but If t...

devoncop wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:29 am

Egypt thanks the Seleucids for the "clarification" .

What exactly do the Seleucids see as "redressing the balance of power ?"

Seeking a peace that makes both Judea and Egypt happy. Or, at the very least, equally unhappy.

So the Seleucids have decided to declare war on Arabia and Egypt and her ally Carthage and ally with Judea. I only declared war on Arabia, which lead to Egypt DOWing me as as an ally. Only. As far as I know I’m at peace with Carthage and other Egyptian allies due to the no-chain-alliance-DOW rule. ...

Some thoughts on the Seleucids/Bactria: 1) According to Wikipedia, Bactria was a Seleucid satrapy until 245 BC (or so) when it declared independence. So perhaps it shouldn't even be a starting country? But rather a late arriving country like Galatians and Parthia? As has been noted, it is very diffi...

And in case anyone is wondering what I've been up to, today I learned conquering the eastern map edge does not give one the degree of security one would normally expect: