The solution adopted in Fog AM for those who don't know it was to restrict the army break point to 1 per 50 points of army size, so a 700 point army breaks on a maximum of 14 AP losses (if it has 14 or more BG, otherwise as now). 800 point armies have a corresponding maximum of 16 and 900 have 18. ...

I certainly think cavalry should be less than horse. Turk and Indian armies are currently not viable in open competitions.

There is no reason why they should not be, after all it was not unheard of them to beat European armies.

Don

Has anyone thought of treating horse and commanded shot as a new formation within the rules, much like a pike and shot unit? You join the units up at time of writing army list and then they have to remain together for the whole game. This would prevent them going off and doing their own thing. As th...

Are we forgetting the armoured cavalry with sword here. From what I have read about battles between the Turks and the Austrian, unless the Austrians had armour for heads and arms, they suffered to the superior sword skills of the Turks. Current the pistols would have advantage every round.

Don

Surely if the reason for the tidy up of the rules is to encourage more people to play 'simple is best'.

Just remove them.

Don

I tried all the various Indian armies in the early days of FoGR and then put them away.

They only come out now in themed competitions that don't include any Europeans.

Being one of the people who have voted with their feet, my comments were my attempt to help.

Don

I think if this job is worth doing then you will need more than two, but here are my two 1. Look at points costs. Dragoons are way too cheap for all their abilities. How can superior, heavily armoured, pistol, pistol, horse be the same cost as superior, armoured, bow, sword, cavalry. The horse are u...

Mounted armies get hit far worse by 50/ 50 rule as 4's of cavalry dont work and 6's are to expensive, whereas 6's of foot do work Not sure to many of us will agree with this. It is your combination of mounted, dragoons and artillery that is so effective, so I think any discussion must include all t...

I for one think the rules could do with a spruce up. There would appear to have been many good ideas left on the cutting room floor with the 1st edition. The balance between foot and mounted needs to be looked at. Competitions have become predictable and so hold no enjoyment for those taking part, e...

Will, let Pete know that we all send our best wishes and that he has a speedy recovery. Other than Alasdair all the others of us were very close. We all know that Richard does what he wants rather than what someone tells him. Sorry I think I completely missed that Pete was not well, please send on ...

Thank you everyone for coming, sorry the games were shorter than expected.
Richard tells me he just ignored the instructions given out in the past and just played on. We will know for another year.



Don

Just to let everyone know Richard will now only be joining me for one day. I am not sure which day yet, but if I know before the weekend I will let everyone know. Nothing to panic about, just children problems. As I haven't played since November last year, I will try and play as quickly as possible...

madlemmey wrote:War up game last night, Tibetans vs Mapuche. Mapuche 12, Tibetans 8!

Thanks for giving them encouragement for tomorrow

Don

Just to let everyone know Richard will now only be joining me for one day. I am not sure which day yet, but if I know before the weekend I will let everyone know. Nothing to panic about, just children problems. As I haven't played since November last year, I will try and play as quickly as possible....

[quote="viking123"]Nigel,

It all depends on how Kevin and Lynette have organised their list.

Very much different, without giving too much away.

Don

Runners and riders 1 - Richard and Don - Maratha 1661 2 - Isabel and Stephen Stead - Burmese 1494 3 - Rob Medcraft and Ray Boyles - Mughal 1565 4 - Will Denham and Pete Simpson - Mapuche 1601 5 - Bruce Rollett and Neil Moulden - Safavid Persian 1660 6 - Kevin Johnson and Lynette Maxim - Mughal 1562 ...

spotteddog wrote:C'mon all you foggeRs get your entries in. You know you want too! We need some more lowly ranked cannon fodder like myself to feed the fog meisters ambitions.

HH

Think you will find they are all there, but playing some thing new.

Don

viking123 wrote:Don,

Are we going to get the runners and riders?

If you look a coupe of posts up you will see that I will, but I was waiting for the last list.

Be up in the next 1/2 hour, along with the draw so you can all plot your opponents down fall

Don

nigelemsen wrote:

donm2 wrote:Can I remind everyone who has entered I need your army lists this weekend.

Thanks very much

Don

That would be me then

Nigel, for once you are not last

When I have the last list I will post an R 'n' R.

Don

Can I remind everyone I need your list in today please?

And yes we now have an even number, fingers crossed we have no drop outs.

Don