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New 3d warships - Cruiser, Destroyer, Minesweeper

Post by GottaLove88s » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:10 pm

Gents,

I've been experimenting with 3d warships (with plenty of advice, help & encouragement from Amaris, Richcat, Pip, TwoEyes & Tim1966 along the way... Huge thanks guys!).

So far, this has resulted in injecting steroids into Slith's Fairmile_B and MGB models to give them a new lease of life as S-class and Hunt class Royal Navy destroyers, and turning a couple of static 3d barge models into freighters and landing craft (for the Dieppe Raid -> viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347)

However, I need some seriously hot 3d warships to try out a new Guadalcanal & Eastern Solomons campaign (viewtopic.php?f=87&t=41434&p=389723)

I've just got hold of some very cool 3d models for a WW2 cruiser, destroyer and minesweeper (viewtopic.php?f=104&t=43437&p=411626#p411626)
These are low poly (1,500-2,500 polygons) models to work with Slith's BA game engine.

Does anybody know how (have access to eg. MAX) to convert these from their original .3ds format into .s3f (or .s4f) for Battle Academy?

Sorry guys... Had to remove access to the original 3ds files...
Am working them up with Amaris and we hope to release in new mods for BA...
Please contact me if you're interested in helping to develop something with these...

CRUISER (please create as 3 square length, centred on middle square, facing forwards)
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DESTROYER (please create as 2 square length, overlapping forwards & back, to centre on middle square, facing forwards)
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MINESWEEPER (please create as 1 to 1.5 square length, facing forwards)
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Sorry to ask (I only have a simple Mac and no clever software)... Am really grateful for your help!
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by Amaris » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:59 am

Very nice!

I could not resist doing some tests:

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Remember : I don't have any 3D skill!
But the rendering is already good, for an amateur ;-)
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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by rf900 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:19 pm

Nice, what soft did you use to convert the formats? Also annoying request, can you make it bigger to see how it would look filling the tile or even a bit more?

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by Amaris » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:26 pm

I use the trial version of 3DSMAX ;-)

I'm working on the size of the differents ships (DD, CA and CM):

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As I do not have the original texture filesn I use the texture of MGB ships. A true artist could do much better. :oops:
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Post by Amaris » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:38 pm

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by Amaris » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:41 pm

I released a pack of this 3D models: http://amaris-games.com/wp-content/plug ... .php?id=37
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Post by Amaris » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:58 pm

@ John: where are you found this models? i'm looking for the texture file associated with the model.
And have you some battleships/carrier model too? :mrgreen:
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Post by Amaris » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:51 pm

Amaris wrote:@ John: where are you found this models? i'm looking for the texture file associated with the model.
And have you some battleships/carrier model too? :mrgreen:
Ohh you have bought :shock: them on Turbosquid: http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3ds ... hip/630769

$29.90 by model :o
I have already 7 types of ships on my naval mod. And not counting submarines. So seven ships per side, fourteen models.
If I do the same thing, my wife will kill me. :roll:
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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by pipfromslitherine » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:24 pm

How cool does that look!

Maybe, once Rommel is out, I can look at allowing multiple turret objects (I think we would need to stick with them all facing the same way, but it would still look pretty cool).

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by GottaLove88s » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:35 pm

Amaris wrote:
Amaris wrote:@ John: where are you found this models? i'm looking for the texture file associated with the model.
And have you some battleships/carrier model too? :mrgreen:
Ohh you have bought :shock: them

I have already 7 types of ships on my naval mod. And not counting submarines. So seven ships per side, fourteen models.
If I do the same thing, my wife will kill me. :roll:
Hey Amaris! Yes, you caught me.

I've been looking EVERYWHERE for decent low poly WW2 warships and these are the best that I've found so far. I'd hoped you might enjoy 'em?
Sure, I also have a low poly carrier, a landing craft mother ship and a tanker/freighter. :mrgreen:

It's suddenly occurred to me that we might not be allowed to post these (Turbosquid) so tell me if you're interested, and I'll PM you more?
I suspect the license terms permit me (and co-developer partners :D) to use 'em, but otherwise we should probably remove the .3ds files above. :-(
Still haven't found a decent battleship model in low poly yet (lots in mega poly but BA can't handle that). Am still hunting!

Shall we PM and work this? How cool will NAM be in 3d? ;-)

Meanwhile... Please, please, please could you do me a massive favour?
Can you re-scale the cruiser to be 3 full squares, and the destroyer to be 2 full squares, although both remain centred on a single central square.
Your minesweeper is perfect!! Nice job!!
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by GottaLove88s » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:38 pm

pipfromslitherine wrote:How cool does that look!

Maybe, once Rommel is out, I can look at allowing multiple turret objects (I think we would need to stick with them all facing the same way, but it would still look pretty cool).

Cheers

Pip
Thanks Pip, that would be awesome. Am really grateful for your support on this...

Can you imagine how incredible these cruisers/destroyers are going to look, when both turrets can turn to point at a shore object to fire a broadside... Totally wow!
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Post by pipfromslitherine » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:05 pm

I will try and get a version out to you guys once Rommel is released. Remind me if I forget! The new functionality will NOT be in Rommel.

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by GottaLove88s » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:43 pm

Amaris wrote:@ John: where are you found this models? i'm looking for the texture file associated with the model.
And have you some battleships/carrier model too? :mrgreen:
Amaris, Have PM'ed you the texture files... :mrgreen:
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by GottaLove88s » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:44 pm

pipfromslitherine wrote:I will try and get a version out to you guys once Rommel is released. Remind me if I forget! The new functionality will NOT be in Rommel.

Cheers

Pip
Thanks Pip, Don't worry, No expectation to have this in Rommel... It's awesome that you'll do this for us at all... so huge thanks!! :D :D :D
Now... let's get back to work on BA goes to Guadalcanal...
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by GottaLove88s » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:20 pm

Amaris wrote:
Amaris wrote:@ John: where are you found this models? i'm looking for the texture file associated with the model.
And have you some battleships/carrier model too? :mrgreen:
Ohh you have bought :shock: them
I have already 7 types of ships on my naval mod. And not counting submarines. So seven ships per side, fourteen models.
If I do the same thing, my wife will kill me. :roll:
PS. I believe that I may have secured a source for a full set of reasonably realistic, but still low poly, US and Japanese Pacific warships, including battleships, carriers, light and heavy cruisers, destroyers, merchantmen, etc... More to come...
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Please help with .3ds -> .s3f?

Post by Amaris » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:00 am

GottaLove88s wrote:Amaris, Have PM'ed you the texture files... :mrgreen:
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Re: New 3d warships - Cruiser, Destroyer, Minesweeper

Post by GottaLove88s » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:39 am

WOW!! That's hot.

What do the cruiser and destroyer look like with the textures?
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Cruiser, Destroyer, Minesweeper

Post by GottaLove88s » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:43 am

@Pip, I've noticed that when Slith's default warships, eg. the Fairmile_B or MGB sink in Battle Academy, they're lowered deeper into the water.
How do we control the 'depth' of a unit, ie. it's vertical positioning on the battle map, so that we could hide the red part of the hull (and the props, lol) below the waterline?
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347

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Re: New 3d warships - Cruiser, Destroyer, Minesweeper

Post by Amaris » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:52 am

GottaLove88s wrote:WOW!! That's hot.

What do the cruiser and destroyer look like with the textures?
1-square version:

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3-squares version:

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Re: New 3d warships - Cruiser, Destroyer, Minesweeper

Post by Amaris » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:54 am

GottaLove88s wrote:@Pip, I've noticed that when Slith's default warships, eg. the Fairmile_B or MGB sink in Battle Academy, they're lowered deeper into the water.
How do we control the 'depth' of a unit, ie. it's vertical positioning on the battle map, so that we could hide the red part of the hull (and the props, lol) below the waterline?
This is defined by the 3D model.
As I enlarged the ship, I tried to keep the hull in the water.
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