Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

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Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:13 pm

Time for me to start planning next years Farnborough Shot.

Possible Dates :-
October 5th, 12th or 19th or possibly early September

Scale :- 25mm armies, 650 AP, 40 mm MU

3 Games in one Day.

Venue Elles Hall, Farnborough, Hampshire

Probable Cost £5 with tea and coffee provided/

Theme :-
Has to allow for Russians or Poles somewhere between 1570 and 1700 - as that is what I own :-)

Could just allow it to be open as 25mm competitions are not common

Any thoughts ?

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by viking123 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:49 pm

You could make it the early wars of Gustavus Adolphus. That would allow Swedes and Poles.

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by nikgaukroger » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:20 pm

MarcP wrote:
Theme :-
Has to allow for Russians or Poles somewhere between 1570 and 1700 - as that is what I own :-)

Could just allow it to be open as 25mm competitions are not common

Any thoughts ?
Open is such a dull choice, however, I suspect that many people who have 25mm armies only have TYW/ECW types (for the obvious reasons) and so if you are to theme you probably need to have something they can at least morph those into without it all looking too silly.

Bob said:
You could make it the early wars of Gustavus Adolphus. That would allow Swedes and Poles.
Which could be a useful starting point - but I think you'd want more pike & shot types than just the Swedes.

How about a bit of a "what if" theme based around the (slightly, but not totally, absurd) idea that the TYW actually grew out of the northern wars. So you have the Poles, Russians, Danes, Swedes, Germans and Imperials. Dates chosen will determine what lists are allowed and could run from, say, the start of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth list to 16XX - the XX bit probably being determined by what sort of Swedish army you'd allow because of the Salvo from 1622.
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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by timmy1 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:52 pm

Well Sweden and Poland were at war from about 1611 to 1629 and Poland was at war with Russia in 1618 and also about 1632 (mainly fighting around Smolensk - can't remember when that war ended) so it is not actually a very big stretch. At some point Hapsburgs joined in the Swedish - Poland war. The Swedes and Russians were allies just prior to GA.

There might have been Cossack allies at some point.

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:55 am

Key question is what date out of 5th, 12th and 19th October ?

Realistically we need a 17th C theme to allow a good number of players to compete.

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by kevinj » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:58 am

I suggest that you avoid 5th October as that is the same weekend as the Derby Team event.

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by nikgaukroger » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:23 am

MarcP wrote:
Realistically we need a 17th C theme to allow a good number of players to compete.

But what do you mean by a "17th C" theme? I'm guessing it really boils down to having a reasonable number of allowed armies in the comp that players can use their TYW/ECW figures for.
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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by gibby » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:16 pm

So I guess my Samurai are out.
So just the Poles/Germans or Spanish then.

As for date...Go 19th October.
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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by nikgaukroger » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:09 pm

How about a "Deluge" based theme for a slightly different set of dates?
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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:34 pm

All,
I've booked the room for 19th October

So 25 mm FOG-R competition at the Elles Hall Farnborough on 19th October

650 AP armies

Pre-set terrain

40 mm MU

6' by 5' tables

3 games during the day - I'll try and allow slightly longer for breaks

£5 a person including tea and coffee.

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by quackstheking » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:37 am

Theme?

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by timmy1 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:04 am

Big Boys Don't Cry...?

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by Aetius » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:30 pm

Are you going for pre-set terrain again Marc?

It worked well last year well apart from that trouble with the tide coming in & out ;-)

Themed is fine but TBF if you allow Swedes you'll get Swedes - & lots of em and lots of lookey-likey things purporting to be Swedes (IMHO)

Open worked fine last year and we saw a good variety of different and interesting armies.

Please count me in but do let me know about the 'Themed' idea as if it's TYW I'll stop painting my Aztecs (which is a labour of love anyway!)

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:52 am

Terrain will be pre-set again with a random draw for which table.

Might try a reverse Dunkerque - with the tide coming in rather than going out ...

I'm happy to leave it unthemed. The first Farnborough Shot was unthemed with 4 games at I think 450AP on 6' by 4' tables. I don't think the Swedes took over last year - though we where all Europeans with my army being the farthest East.

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:58 am

For the record - last years result was :-
1st - Ben Jones - 30 YW French 64
2nd Jim Gibson Late Imperial Spanish 59
3rd Pete Dalby 30 YW Swedes 52
4th Tim Porter 30 YW Catholic 50
5th Don Avis Anglo Dutch 45
6th equal Ray Boyles (Late Austrian Hapsburg) and Richard J-c (30 YW German) 44
8th Andrew Unwin Scots Montrose 38
9th equal Tom Elsworth (early Louis XIV) /Mike Shepherd (Early Louis XIV) 32
11th Marc Priest Later Russians 31
12th Mark Fry New Model Army 24
13th Byron Emson 30 YW French 18
14th Alan Brown Scots Covenanter 17
15th Dave Allen 30 YW French 15
16th Nigel Emson Scots Jacobite 10

So only one Swede - managed 3rd (and Pete is a veteran player)

Personally I'd ban 2 ME Dragoons and Commanded Shot as the -1 on shooting death rolls makes them too hard to kill . However I don't reallyplay enough FOG-R to have a sensible opinion.
The Aztecs would be most welcome...

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by Aetius » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:14 am

I'll keep paint them then Marc :)
NB: I would make the point that other than your Russians there was a distinct 'theme' to the armies - ;-) - that's a lot of TYW or 'floppy hat brigade' !

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:43 pm

My Russians claimed to be 1645 - so they where right for the floppy hat era (but ours are furrier)

I'm not sure we'd get the numbers if we tried for a theme that excluded muskets and other nasty things :-)

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by flamingpig0 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:49 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:How about a "Deluge" based theme for a slightly different set of dates?

How about 'Defenestration and Deluge' which would cover the popular 30 years War armies as well as the wilder Easterners for those who have them?

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by nigelemsen » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:47 pm

Hi, sadly I can not make this comp :( 19/10/14 due to it being an access weekend for my daughter and the ex being difficult about swapping weekends... But my jacobites will out for Rollcall 2014. :)

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Re: Farnborough Shot 2014 - 25mm competition

Post by MarcP » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:55 pm

Just over 6 months to go :-)

Hopefully those of you who got my handout at Challenge will be interested. I'll e-mail those who attended or showed an interest last year in a month or so

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