Attack! Devizes - 19th/20th July 2014 - A Time of Rebellion

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Attack! Devizes - 19th/20th July 2014 - A Time of Rebellion

Post by rbodleyscott » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:45 am

I am proposing the following theme for Attack! in July, but I would welcome (helpful) comments.

900 points Doubles.

Theme: "A Time of Rebellion"

Any army 1642-1660 from any of the army list books, with the following additional restrictions.

i. No heavily armoured mounted troops permitted.
ii. Army must include at least 16 bases of mounted battle troops.
iii. Army must include at least 6 bases of foot battle troops for each base of medium or heavy artillery.


The aim of the date period is to allow Determined Horse a good runout, to stick with traditional 2 pike, 4 shot foot BGs, and to exclude any detached bayonet shenanigans. However, I have not excluded eastern and exotic armies.

Hopefully this will provide an interesting mix of armies, different from previous themes.

If anyone can see any loophole in the above that allows any particular army list a special advantage, please could you point it out.

Richard

Edited in the light of comments below.

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by kevinj » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:57 am

I would suggest that the 2 BGs of foot battle troops should be at least 6 bases just in case any devious person thinks of using Commanded Shot for the purpose.

Since I thought of that, does that make me really devious? :twisted:

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by rbodleyscott » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:34 am

kevinj wrote:I would suggest that the 2 BGs of foot battle troops should be at least 6 bases just in case any devious person thinks of using Commanded Shot for the purpose.

Since I thought of that, does that make me really devious? :twisted:
No, it just means I was knackered when I thought out the theme last night after getting back from Burton. Congrats on your triumph.

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by alasdair2204 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:41 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:I am proposing the following theme for Attack! in July, but I would welcome (helpful) comments.

Any army 1642-1660.
No heavily armoured mounted troops permitted.
Army must include at least 16 bases of mounted battle troops.
Army must include at least 12 bases of foot battle troops for each BG of medium or heavy artillery.

The aim of the date period is to allow Determined Horse a good runout, to stick with traditional 2 pike, 4 shot foot BGs, and to exclude any detached bayonet shenanigans. However, I have not excluded eastern and exotic armies.

Hopefully this will provide an interesting mix of armies, different from previous themes.

If anyone can see any loophole in the above that allows any particular army list a special advantage, please could you point it out.

Richard

A dream come true

can't wait

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by viking123 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:13 am

Do we know the dates for Attack! yet?

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by daveallen » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:18 am

Not so much an objection as an observation:

Those of us who like to take a lot of foot are forced to have a high minimum of horse. Yet the cavalry king is given free rein :oops:

How about a minimum of 24 bases of M/HF? That way everyone is forced to waste points on troops they don't want.

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by kevinj » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:40 am

Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by rbodleyscott » Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:30 pm

kevinj wrote:
Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
As Kevin says, he is given free rein as long as he is willing to do without artillery.

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by daveallen » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:10 pm

kevinj wrote:
Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
He could do without artillery, or take one bg of four and just twelve bases of foot.

So cavalry armies can pick and choose, but foot armies are weighed down with numerous mounted toffs!

Seems fair to me... :cry:

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by madaxeman » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:31 pm

daveallen wrote:
He could do without artillery, or take one bg of four and just twelve bases of foot.
Dave
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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by rbodleyscott » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:52 pm

daveallen wrote:He could ... take one bg of four [artillery] and just twelve bases of foot.
Good point.

OK. So I have changed it to "Army must include at least 6 bases of foot battle troops for each base of medium or heavy artillery."

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by alasdair2204 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:15 pm

Feeling picked on again

Alasdair

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by daveallen » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:27 pm

alasdair2204 wrote:Feeling picked on again
Yes I am!

Dave :evil:

How about:

Armies must have at least whichever is the lesser of the maximum amount of mounted battle troops from their core list or 16.

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by madaxeman » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:41 am

alasdair2204 wrote:Feeling picked on again

Alasdair

Go on then, what's the list with the 4-pack heavy guns and almost no compulsory foote you were looking at ?
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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by daveallen » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:29 am

There are at least four.

Wouldn't have moaned if there weren't any...

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by nikgaukroger » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:34 am

daveallen wrote:There are at least four.

Wouldn't have moaned if there weren't any...

Dave

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by madaxeman » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:04 pm

daveallen wrote:There are at least four.

Wouldn't have moaned if there weren't any...

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At a guess, 2 Ottomans... and ... ?
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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by daveallen » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:46 am

Later Ottoman, Later Russian, Moghul & Early Louis XIV are all available between 1642 and 1660.

Sadly, the new restrictions might make them too "footy."

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by alasdair2204 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:57 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
kevinj wrote:
Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
As Kevin says, he is given free rein as long as he is willing to do without artillery.
My doubles rules are simple, if with Paddy must have artillery or he gets upset, if without Paddy no artillery

cheers

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Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised

Post by alasdair2204 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:27 am

Army sorted

just getting last couple of units painted

cheers

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