Warfare 18/19 November 2017

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Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:20 pm

G'day,

Just a friendly reminder, there will be a FoGR comp at Warfare.

Tim Childs has warned us that as we only have four players confirmed as of the 14/8/2017, we are at risk of it being cancelled.

So, if you are interested, book a ticket ASAP.

Theme is

Theme: Regnans in Exelcis - 15mm, 800points, 6’x4’-ish tables
Armies and the options chosen must be dated before 1570. No Battle Troops with Musket, Musket*, Salvo or Impact Pistol may be used.
The list-checker will be Tim Child. See e-mail above for contact details, or alternatively lists can be sent by post to:-
Tim Child (Warfare), 6 Cotswold Close, Maidenhead, Berkshire, U.K. SL6 1XF
(If sending lists by post, please send them early, as it takes longer to arrive and reply!)
The list submitted must not exceed the points specified and be from one of the official FOG:R list-books as permitted by the Theme.
Army lists must specify the number and size of battle groups and their order of march for deployment, and the number and type of commanders chosen. They should also include the territory list for the army. Once an army list has been submitted it may not be changed or altered other than to correct any errors. Players may only correct their errors by making reasonable changes to their list. It is not allowed to completely re-write the list, and the list checkers decision on this is final.
The competition is single list format. Any incorrect list discovered after a game has commenced (after set up dice have been
rolled) must be corrected prior to deployment if spotted in time, and fully corrected in any case before the next match.
Army lists must be submitted for checking in advance and must be received by Tim not later than 28 October 2017.
Tournament Schedule:
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games
begin”)
Round 1: 9.30 am to 12.45 pm
Lunch: 12.45 pm to 1.45 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find
someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.45 pm to 5.00 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.15 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.15 pm to 1.15 pm
Round 4: 1.15 pm to 4.30 pm
Prizegiving: As soon as we can work it out!
Tables will be numbered and the draw for the next round will be published as soon as we can. Once they know their
opponent, players can always commence games earlier by mutual consent.
House Rules:
i. The scoring system will be the standard FOG 0-25 tournament system.
ii. A modified Swiss Chess system will operate throughout the competition. Players may not play against fellow club
players in the first 2 rounds, nor players whom they have played in earlier rounds, nor against any relatives in the
first degree of consanguinity. Thus an entrant cannot be matched against his/her spouse, parent, brother, sister,
and/or child (unless both entrants specifically inform us beforehand that you would like to have this rule disapplied
to yourselves).
iii. Table size: The tables will be approximately 6' x 4' (the tables may be slightly narrower than 6’ due to the width
of the marking tape, and will be played to the width of the cloths provided unless both players agree prior to the
start of the game to use only 4’ depth). Players must supply their own terrain pieces. These must be to an
acceptable standard, and umpires will have the discretion to remove unsightly items. In addition all figures must
be representative and painted and based to an acceptable standard

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by RonanTheLibrarian » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:23 am

Simon - The competition rules pack, with the email for Tim, is here:-

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21A ... 55&o=OneUp

I shall be entering, as will Patrick, which takes us up to 6. Has Tim indicated what the lowest viable number is?

Do we know which version of the rules/lists will apply?
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:00 am

Tim has said 8 people in the minimum to get the comp rolling.

In regards to the rules version, I don't know. I'll ask him, please hold caller.

At first glance, I'd reckon we'd use the v1.9 rules we played at Britcon. The only change to what has been debated on the forums is the points cost for mounted (no change)

the only points cost change was for Elephants

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by kevinj » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:05 am

I've already mailed Tim on this and suggested we go with what was used at Britcon plus the latest points revision which will be the same as Derby.

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:23 am

So,

will Elephants work in a Keil period?

:-)

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by RonanTheLibrarian » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:26 pm

I think a keil of elephants would be difficult to control, but potentially devastating - not least for the table legs.
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:43 pm

And it would definitely need a complex move test to turn 90 degrees.

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by RonanTheLibrarian » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:38 pm

What, upwards?
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:48 pm

They can do that without a CMT.

It's called rolling a 1 on the death roll.

:-)

mmm, elephant spare ribs

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by nikgaukroger » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:03 pm

kevinj wrote:I've already mailed Tim on this and suggested we go with what was used at Britcon plus the latest points revision which will be the same as Derby.
Can I just confirm that this is indeed the case.
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by RonanTheLibrarian » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:56 am

Shouldn't "Regnans in Excelsis" be from 1570 (possibly up to its first suspension in 1580), rather than before?
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by nikgaukroger » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:13 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:
kevinj wrote:I've already mailed Tim on this and suggested we go with what was used at Britcon plus the latest points revision which will be the same as Derby.
Can I just confirm that this is indeed the case.
Shall I press on on the assumption it is?
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by nikgaukroger » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:04 am

Unrelated to my last post I see there are still 2 places for FoG:R available if anybody is interested :D
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by nikgaukroger » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:03 am

OK folks, I have been asked by Tim Childs to confirm that we will be using the same FoG:R updates as were used at Britcon.

These can be found here - http://www.bhgs.org.uk/uploads/9/3/2/3/ ... 072017.pdf

For points values however we will use the latest proposal:

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Kevin will be the list checker so please send your lists to him - Kevinj@btinternet.com

Additionally as mentioned in my post above there are 2 new places available for FoG:R at Warfare so if you know anyone who is interested please get them to sign up ASAP. These places will not be held open forever, and if not taken soon(ish) will be reallocated to another competition.
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by nikgaukroger » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:27 am

Kevin has kindly sorted out an updated version of the changes document which incorporated the points costs to be used:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/blce1co0baf57 ... .docx?dl=0

Also the army design spreadsheet that incorporates the poinst to make things easy for us :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nu5xtc7jbk7a7 ... .xlsx?dl=0
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:26 pm

arrrgh!

Can't decide on an army

No way the elephants will be coming out, not with that many pike!

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by nikgaukroger » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:28 pm

What's a pike? :shock:
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by RonanTheLibrarian » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:12 pm

Freshwater fish, isn't it? Can't think why elephants would be scared of them.
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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by urbanbunny1 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:11 pm

they look scary!

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Re: Warfare 18/19 November 2017

Post by spedders » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:04 pm

Am I missing something or is the army list generator incorrect? It shows a sup armoured det foot pike as 10pts but the amendments show it as 9pts, same with elite pikes, they seem to be 1point more than the amendments show them to be?

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