Type of hero probability

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by PeteMitchell » Thu May 13, 2021 8:50 pm

heinzrondorf wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 8:31 pm
I love this thread. It is very fun to follow everyones progress. Maybe we can pursue a 3rd hero on a recon unit next? :)
Yes, I very much agree. Wish I had a bit more time right now :)
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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by goose_2 » Thu May 13, 2021 9:44 pm

heinzrondorf wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 8:31 pm
I love this thread. It is very fun to follow everyones progress. Maybe we can pursue a 3rd hero on a recon unit next? :)
This is not hard to do. You can do it easily in Allied corps. In fact I think Zilla Blitz has a recon with 3 heroes already at First Battle of El Alamein
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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by TSPC37730 » Fri May 14, 2021 2:11 am

goose_2 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 9:44 pm
heinzrondorf wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 8:31 pm
I love this thread. It is very fun to follow everyones progress. Maybe we can pursue a 3rd hero on a recon unit next? :)
This is not hard to do. You can do it easily in Allied corps. In fact I think Zilla Blitz has a recon with 3 heroes already at First Battle of El Alamein
As a personal preference, I'm keeping my 3 hero pursuits confined to the GC. You need more kills, which makes it much more challenging.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by goose_2 » Fri May 14, 2021 3:30 am

yeah 3 heroes in gc would be very very hard. Over 1000 kills is difficult for many units, except Oleh Dir, Rudel, and your SE Panzers
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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by Ursulet » Fri May 14, 2021 4:59 am

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Fri May 14, 2021 3:30 am
yeah 3 heroes in gc would be very very hard. Over 1000 kills is difficult for many units, except Oleh Dir, Rudel, and your SE Panzers
I have got over 30 heroes so far. I have been very lucky at first, my 2 stukas have got a 3 Attack hero end of 39. They ended up 1940 with 750 and 850 kills. Since then i received a 3D on oleh dir, a 3 D on my panzer 2c and a 3A on artillery. The rest have been 1a/1d heroes and spotting on se panzers. Not a single range or move hero on artillery. :cry:

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by heinzrondorf » Fri May 14, 2021 6:38 am

goose_2 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 9:44 pm
heinzrondorf wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 8:31 pm
I love this thread. It is very fun to follow everyones progress. Maybe we can pursue a 3rd hero on a recon unit next? :)
This is not hard to do. You can do it easily in Allied corps. In fact I think Zilla Blitz has a recon with 3 heroes already at First Battle of El Alamein
Yes, I was referring to playing the GC so that it has to accumulate >1,000 kills.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by captainjack » Fri May 14, 2021 8:14 am

I'm about to start Vyazma with 875 kills already. I'm disappointed at not yet getting hero number 2, but still doing much better than I'd expected. With the rain, I'm not expecting much, but might just get to 900.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by PeteMitchell » Fri May 14, 2021 9:40 am

Do you try this at Manstein difficulty? Would this be easier?
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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by heinzrondorf » Fri May 14, 2021 11:50 am

captainjack wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 8:14 am
I'm about to start Vyazma with 875 kills already. I'm disappointed at not yet getting hero number 2, but still doing much better than I'd expected. With the rain, I'm not expecting much, but might just get to 900.
Awesome, at this rate you will get the third hero no doubt.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by Ursulet » Fri May 14, 2021 8:23 pm

PeteMitchell wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 9:40 am
Do you try this at Manstein difficulty? Would this be easier?
Or play fm/rommel and adding +5 str to both you and the computer.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by captainjack » Sat May 15, 2021 2:05 am

Higher enemy strength would be good where there are ships or naval transports but apart from these, I'm generally doing 2 to 3 per attack in good weather, so stronger enemy wouldn't make a lot of difference.
In Narvik, my Killer Strat couldn't kill all the ships on his own, but the others it probably would have added a few.
Vyazma weather was quite good and I managed a DV to get Streets of Moscow which wasn't very productive due to cloud and snow. At the start of Demyansk, he's on 949 and (annoyingly) still awaiting the second hero.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by Ursulet » Sat May 15, 2021 6:09 am

Thats very impressive.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by captainjack » Sat May 15, 2021 6:55 am

988 at end of Demyansk, and still awaiting the second hero.
I think it's safe to say that a second strat bomber hero can be almost guaranteed by end 41. I'm not quite sure of the chances of getting a hero before it's guaranteed, but I must have been a bit unlucky.
Also, since there's a chance of getting the third hero from 1001 onwards, it would be just possible to have a strat bomber get third hero in 41.
For info, I'm using dice chess, colonel withAI 2, reform units, and sot cap is disabled which is a a bit easier than I usually play at but not enough to make a difference to the killer strat bomber mission.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by Ursulet » Sat May 15, 2021 7:07 am

I think the dice chess helps a bit. I dont use it and more often than not i get no kills even on the river and inam only targetting soft targets.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by faos333 » Sat May 15, 2021 1:05 pm

captainjack wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 6:55 am
988 at end of Demyansk, and still awaiting the second hero.
good progress !!!!!
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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by TSPC37730 » Sun May 16, 2021 2:25 am

faos333 wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 1:05 pm
captainjack wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 6:55 am
988 at end of Demyansk, and still awaiting the second hero.
good progress !!!!!
I've felt this sort of pain to a lesser degree. I am playing with 2 SB's at FM +2 level. I didn't get my first heroes until Dunkirk, when both SB's were over 290 kills. I have to confess to some reloads. I simply could not accept movement or initiative heroes after playing this long. In the end, I did better than I hoped. One hero was the ultimate +3A, and the other was an interesting +3D. Got them almost back to back. Made me feel a little bit guilty about the reloads.

Going to have to play with much more discipline if I'm going to continue. My prestige level is too low.

Also working towards the three hero recon goal. Good progress there. Using two recon units. One with +2A & the other with +3A.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by Ursulet » Mon May 17, 2021 7:48 pm

captainjack wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 6:55 am
Just finished 1940 with 595 kills for my strat bomber (375 in the campaign). Best 2 scenarios were Dunkirk with 92 and Hague with 40. Not surprisingly, these both had ships, though the stock target is towed AT or artillery, typically for 2 kills each - AA is just as good but needs to be suppressed first.
If I finish early, I leave off the final hex capture and keep a gun alive with one or two units next to it so I can keep bombing it for 2 kills per turn. That added an extra 10 in Reims alone.
I restarted 1940 and ended up with only 388 kills. I got a +3A hero (after 18 reloads 4 ini Heroes, 3 spottings, 5 move, 4 defense+1, 2 A+1 heroes). I only managed 255 kills. Am i correct to assume you had a ju88 as strat bomber? I just realized that i forgot to upgrade my he 111. That might explain why i am 120 kills behind you.

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by TSPC37730 » Tue May 18, 2021 2:33 am

Ursulet wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 7:48 pm
I just realized that i forgot to upgrade my he 111.
You absolutely should upgrade to the JU88A. More fuel, more ammo & most of all a +2 soft attack. The only drawback is the cost, but it's not that bad.

I was able to close out the '40 campaign this weekend. My SB kill totals aren't that great, but I will continue.

2nd Ju88A: +3A, 365 kills
15th Ju88A: +3D, 360 kills - keeping pace despite no attack hero
1st SdKfz 232: +2A, 565 kills
21st SdKfz 232: +3A, 385 kills

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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by Ursulet » Tue May 18, 2021 5:34 am

I dont feel like restarting 40 all over again. I was fairly lucky with the other heroes, for which i didnt reload. Got +3A hero on my +3A stucka, he is like a second rudel. Also had 2 spotting on infantery that will make nice krad in 41, a 3A on a pzjager and a SE tank and 2 range heroes on arty. With that kind of luck, i cant restart.

I upgraded my SB to a do 217E.
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Re: Type of hero probability

Post by heinzrondorf » Tue May 18, 2021 6:48 am

TSPC37730 wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 2:33 am
1st SdKfz 232: +2A, 565 kills
21st SdKfz 232: +3A, 385 kills
That is very impressive and it must be quite challenging playing aggressive with a recon but not overdoing it so that it gets killed. What 2nd hero are you hoping for?

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