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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by rayduhz » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:48 am

nikivdd wrote:It is possible that a year ago Soviet Corps was regarded as the final addition to Panzer Corps but in the meantime, a bit out of the blue perhaps, operation Sea Lion has appeared. Thanks for all the people who purchased it btw!
Soviet Corps is not the final content, there will be more, at least from my part another GC. As usual, proper announcements will appear when the beta for that is ready.
Any information you can release on POST SC? Perhaps tying AK with the other campaigns? Adding alternative campaigns like PG?

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by NagyGL » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:03 pm

BiteNibbleChomp wrote:As much as I would enjoy the Pacific theatre, I think Order of Battle is (by far) the better game to play for that.

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I personally feel the same way - the US vs. Japan conflict of the Pacific theatre has been depicted by OoB decently and I am not sure I would be eager to play the same campaign with an engine not too different from OoB's - but maybe I would :). Still, I'd like it better if PzC would keep its strongest asset (grand campaigns on land) and delve into more exotic conflicts less explored in other games.

The history of China from the war with the Japanese (1937) to the end of the Civil War (1950) is interesting with several smaller conflicts and belligerents with different agendas (Communist and Nationalist China, Allies, Japan, USSR) and is well-aligned with PzC's strengths. Also, maybe a bit weird, but I would feel some exotic mini-campaigns, e.g. WW2 in Eastern Africa would be fun with some experimental mechanics (such as neutral forces, scenarios with three belligerents). It was already said, but pre-WW2 scenarios would also be interesting (e.g. Spanish civil war, Italian campaigns in Africa).

And if not WW2, there are a lot of well (e.g. Vietnam, Korea, WW1) and less explored conflicts (e.g. Russian civil war, Balkan wars) of the 20th century that would be interesting to see - but some of them are probably not mainstream enough to generate a big enough interest :)

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by caca » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:09 pm

On the site Lords, has long been announced US Corps :wink:

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by smashtheaxis » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:05 pm

caca wrote:On the site Lords, has long been announced US Corps :wink:
Cool.

Here's the link:
http://www.thelordzgamesstudio.com/site/about/about-us/
Upcoming:

Panzer Corps: Soviet Corps for PC, Steam and iPad, 2016
Panzer Corps: US Corps for PC, Steam and iPad, 2016

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by RVallant » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:22 pm

NagyGL wrote:
BiteNibbleChomp wrote:As much as I would enjoy the Pacific theatre, I think Order of Battle is (by far) the better game to play for that.

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I personally feel the same way - the US vs. Japan conflict of the Pacific theatre has been depicted by OoB decently and I am not sure I would be eager to play the same campaign with an engine not too different from OoB's - but maybe I would :). Still, I'd like it better if PzC would keep its strongest asset (grand campaigns on land) and delve into more exotic conflicts less explored in other games.
Gonna disagree on that, I thought OOB was poor, but the performance issues I had with that game has probably coloured my perception.

Eh, PC is my 'baby' I guess. If they do another Grand Campaign for it, that's awesome.

At some point I'd like to see PC2 with new mechanics and a more wider game. :) Something for me to look forward to when I finally finish HoI4 in 2020 perhaps? :twisted:

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by smashtheaxis » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:57 pm

Since Soviet Corps features at least two battles against the Japanese, it's maybe not completely impossible that US Corps will also include missions in the Pacific?

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by nikivdd » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:15 am

smashtheaxis wrote:Since Soviet Corps features at least two battles against the Japanese, it's maybe not completely impossible that US Corps will also include missions in the Pacific?
There is OOB Pacific and there is US Corps. OOB Pacific takes action in the Pacific, US Corps does not take action in the Pacific.
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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by WhiteRook » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:38 am

There is OOB Pacific and there is US Corps. OOB Pacific takes action in the Pacific, US Corps does not take action in the Pacific.[/quote]

Now you see - this is why we cant have nice things! :wink:

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by NagyGL » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:42 am

RVallant wrote:
Gonna disagree on that, I thought OOB was poor, but the performance issues I had with that game has probably coloured my perception.

Eh, PC is my 'baby' I guess. If they do another Grand Campaign for it, that's awesome.
No, you are totally right on performance :( They have improved it a lot since release, but e.g. the AI turns still lag. I still do like, however, the scenario design and the innovations they brought to the engine (both sea and land).

But, PC Grand Campaigns are indeed also awesome :)

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by tenshin111 » Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:29 pm

nikivdd wrote:
smashtheaxis wrote:Since Soviet Corps features at least two battles against the Japanese, it's maybe not completely impossible that US Corps will also include missions in the Pacific?
There is OOB Pacific and there is US Corps. OOB Pacific takes action in the Pacific, US Corps does not take action in the Pacific.
Nice, good to know!

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by nikivdd » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:48 pm

The idea of US Corps came to me when i started to play the Americans in Allied Corps. The first mission went not too bad; the enemy was only Vichy French after all, but things got terribly wrong in the second mission.
So i thought of creating a campaign, that would offer myself a better chance to win the Kasserine mission; it should be a campaign in which i can build up and cherish my army while it gains some experience and with some luck receive a couple of heroes along the way. But when i was busy playing the missions i had created up to Kasserine, i really got hooked and finally made, what i now call, a US Corps Grand Campaign. Playing as the Americans present some distinct challenges in comparison to the Germans and Soviets, equipment wise.
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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by Scholomancer » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:53 pm

Yeah, that would be a great idea. I actually just played both of these scenarios for the first time ever just last week. They were the hardest scenarios I have played in a few years due to both unit inexperience, and truth be told my own inexperience in handling new units in the face of tough opponents and tough terrain.

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by Flaygor » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:05 am

nikivdd wrote:The idea of US Corps came to me when i started to play the Americans in Allied Corps. The first mission went not too bad; the enemy was only Vichy French after all, but things got terribly wrong in the second mission.
So i thought of creating a campaign, that would offer myself a better chance to win the Kasserine mission; it should be a campaign in which i can build up and cherish my army while it gains some experience and with some luck receive a couple of heroes along the way. But when i was busy playing the missions i had created up to Kasserine, i really got hooked and finally made, what i now call, a US Corps Grand Campaign. Playing as the Americans present some distinct challenges in comparison to the Germans and Soviets, equipment wise.
Sounds great! 8)

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by BiteNibbleChomp » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:34 am

RVallant wrote:Gonna disagree on that, I thought OOB was poor, but the performance issues I had with that game has probably coloured my perception.
Dissappointed to hear that :( . Still, I can agree that the constant lag the game suffered can be a real pain (and I can never forget that stupid glitch in US Coral Sea!).
NagyGL wrote: No, you are totally right on performance :( They have improved it a lot since release, but e.g. the AI turns still lag. I still do like, however, the scenario design and the innovations they brought to the engine (both sea and land).
^ Sums up most of what I think. ^

Only you forgot the third set of innovations, namely those in the air (torpedoes being dropped from planes are pretty cool)
NagyGL wrote: But, PC Grand Campaigns are indeed also awesome :)
I will never agree with that statement. My only Grand Campaign playthrough (the '45 chapter is in the AAR section) took me 4 years to complete and was too difficult to be worth the effort by the end. I might as well have been in charge of a real war in the amount of time I spent on this rotten thing.

Though my opinion of the thing was a lot better in '39 up to early '43. After that it became 'timewaster'

While writing this I forgot why I was bothering :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by semper_fidelis » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:58 pm

Looking at the screenshots from the Soviet Corps product website, it looks like Japanese (or Chinese?) troops are in play. I have to wonder if Banzai Corps (or something similar) might be next. Maybe focusing more on the land battles in SE Asia than the islands, but hopefully not too much naval action - the the PC engine does not handle ships very well in my opinion.

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by nikivdd » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:56 pm

semper_fidelis wrote: I have to wonder if Banzai Corps (or something similar) might be next. Maybe focusing more on the land battles in SE Asia than the islands, but hopefully not too much naval action - the the PC engine does not handle ships very well in my opinion.
Check out Order of battle: Pacific and its soon to be released add-on Morning Sun. As far as i know no Banzai Corps or something similar is planned for Panzer Corps. We still got an American grand campaign coming up.

Some Sea Lion scenarios were a challenge because of the ships but it turned out quite okay on a limited scale. OOB is definitely further ahead where ships are concerned.
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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by WhiteRook » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:14 pm

nikivdd wrote: Check out Order of battle: Pacific and its soon to be released add-on Morning Sun.
Thats nice and all - but I really dont want to play as the Japs. I'm an allies only kind of guy. :wink:

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by peterw » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:02 am

For me it's the opposite.
At Pacific General I had more fun playing Japan as USA.

Nevertheless next UdSSR (Soviet Corps) is planed...
My Italian Panzer Corps campaign Italia Victor!:
http://www.streitmacht.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=53

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by BiteNibbleChomp » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:09 am

Haven't played Pacific General, but I enjoy Japan more in most games.

One major exception: Victory in the Pacific (1977). Who doesn't like destroying the IJN war plan with 5 carriers at Singapore in Turn 2???

Slitherine should make a PC version of Victory. Would be a day 1 buy if they did! :D

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Re: After Soviet Corps?

Post by WhiteRook » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:22 am

I don't like playing Imperial Japan, or Nazi Germany - hell I don't even like playing the Russians for that matter.
Guess I am in a very small group then, aah well I can still dream. :wink:

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