Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff complete
Moderators: Slitherine Core, Panzer Corps Moderators, Panzer Corps Design
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
5] Oboyan 43
In my opinion Oboyan is the second most difficult battle in GC 43 after Prokhorovka and maybe the toughest one in terms of map geographical restrictions in movement. There is no open country for tanks; the map area is about trenches, woods area and two Rivers dividing the whole area. So, attacking northwards is not an easy operation and needs a lot of planning if you want to win this map. Actually location of Oboyan is north west of Prokhorovka.
In case of a DV a bonus map is offered afterwards. Prestige for a Decisive Victory is 5.000 assuming soft cap 100%. Prestige per turn 50. No of turns 22.
The weather is clear with only 8% for clouds. AI experience is still 2 stars.
Starting soft cap 69%
Units deployed and divided in two battle groups:
Eleven infantry, of which two paratroopers and two Bridge Engineers, if don’t deployed better restart the map.
Seven tanks: 6 Tigers, one PzIVH
Four StuGs
Eleven artillery pieces
Two 88 and two mobile flak
Five 5 fighters, two Stukas, one HS 129, one level bomber
Two Recon
The map offers three mobile flaks as aux units very useful in the opening.
I mostly followed Braccada map strategy as shown in his 43 Rommel playthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pNYew ... J&index=16
Lots of other players like Goose, Robbie Plays Strategy Games, Deducter, R. Martin in various difficulties have played this map with success as well. Soren Tjerry is expected in his Manstein play through as well. If you are interested in advanced tactics videos search them in You Tube.
Starting prestige before repairs and upgrades 70k
End in turn 20 with a DV.
The screenshots that follow emphasize the first turns, since speed of operations is needed to achieve objectives on time.
Any comments welcome
In my opinion Oboyan is the second most difficult battle in GC 43 after Prokhorovka and maybe the toughest one in terms of map geographical restrictions in movement. There is no open country for tanks; the map area is about trenches, woods area and two Rivers dividing the whole area. So, attacking northwards is not an easy operation and needs a lot of planning if you want to win this map. Actually location of Oboyan is north west of Prokhorovka.
In case of a DV a bonus map is offered afterwards. Prestige for a Decisive Victory is 5.000 assuming soft cap 100%. Prestige per turn 50. No of turns 22.
The weather is clear with only 8% for clouds. AI experience is still 2 stars.
Starting soft cap 69%
Units deployed and divided in two battle groups:
Eleven infantry, of which two paratroopers and two Bridge Engineers, if don’t deployed better restart the map.
Seven tanks: 6 Tigers, one PzIVH
Four StuGs
Eleven artillery pieces
Two 88 and two mobile flak
Five 5 fighters, two Stukas, one HS 129, one level bomber
Two Recon
The map offers three mobile flaks as aux units very useful in the opening.
I mostly followed Braccada map strategy as shown in his 43 Rommel playthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pNYew ... J&index=16
Lots of other players like Goose, Robbie Plays Strategy Games, Deducter, R. Martin in various difficulties have played this map with success as well. Soren Tjerry is expected in his Manstein play through as well. If you are interested in advanced tactics videos search them in You Tube.
Starting prestige before repairs and upgrades 70k
End in turn 20 with a DV.
The screenshots that follow emphasize the first turns, since speed of operations is needed to achieve objectives on time.
Any comments welcome
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
6] Kursk south armories
Kursk south armories is a bonus map after you get a Decisive on Oboyan.
So treat it accordingly, relax and earn more prestige.
There is not much to say about this map; apart that is an ideal killing ground for your armor, so no screen shots on this one.
In my playthrough I did not aim for a decisive. I just wanted to earn exp and prestige.
In case you want to get A DV, deploy two bridge engineers so you can cross the river from left and right.
Also, don’t forget to have lots of artillery for taking the central objectives.
This is an ideal map for “kill farming”, thus learning experience for your less used units. Do not deploy your super heroes like Ole Dir; take Pein and all the others recently gained units lacking exp.
You also get free soviet units by taking the map armories that you should disband later in order to get more prestige.
To avoid a left side AI counter attack, do not take city A, because it triggers all AI units to attack from A area.
Any comments welcome
Kursk south armories is a bonus map after you get a Decisive on Oboyan.
So treat it accordingly, relax and earn more prestige.
There is not much to say about this map; apart that is an ideal killing ground for your armor, so no screen shots on this one.
In my playthrough I did not aim for a decisive. I just wanted to earn exp and prestige.
In case you want to get A DV, deploy two bridge engineers so you can cross the river from left and right.
Also, don’t forget to have lots of artillery for taking the central objectives.
This is an ideal map for “kill farming”, thus learning experience for your less used units. Do not deploy your super heroes like Ole Dir; take Pein and all the others recently gained units lacking exp.
You also get free soviet units by taking the map armories that you should disband later in order to get more prestige.
To avoid a left side AI counter attack, do not take city A, because it triggers all AI units to attack from A area.
Any comments welcome
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
7] Prokhorovka
This is the battle everyone is dreaming of playing, since installation of the game, or starting the GC Panzer Corps in general.
Now is the time to deploy the maximum of your armor and devise a strategy to win. The map is big, with the lots of open ground suitable for armored offensive operations. Opposition is tough and victory is not a given especially if you play it for the first time.
Personally, is the second time I encounter Prokhorovka, first was during my Rommel play through, now in Manstein. Actually you can win with a decisive here with most of diff settings. Do not know about Ultimate, hopefully this will be proved by Goose.
Ending soft cup 87%, with a DV at turn 22.
Lots of great players have also shared their experiences with this map and they can be found in this forum or You Tube, look for them.
My plan for this map is an alteration from Braccada on Rommel difficulty, changing lots of things, since on Manstein (+5 strength to AI) is a different case.
AI experience 2 stars. It is a hot Summer 43 time, get ready for action in the Eastern Front.
Turns 22
Weather is fine it’s a July scenario
AI experience: 200 (2 stars)
Auxiliary units: A marvelous Knipsel’s Tiger I, one Me 109 fighter entering on round 2 and three mobile Flaks from the start
Units deployed:
Re- checked the file there were among others
9 Tigers, 5 regular, 4 SE.
4 Stug
9 Infantry of which 2 SE
12 Artilleries
4 tactical bombers
1 level bomber
End soft cap 87%
DV at turn 22/22 to win the prestige per turn 200
There were some losses mainly to over strengths, hence the soft cap ending
Units were divided in three zones of deployment.
NW Battle Group with the objective to slowly advance reaching Psel, do the crossing assist the southern attacks and possibly help in encirclement
Battle Group Knipsel which is basically an army of one with few more units assisting the tremendous auxiliary Tiger offered for this map
SE Battle Group is the main attacking force that will drive to Prokhorovka
This is the battle everyone is dreaming of playing, since installation of the game, or starting the GC Panzer Corps in general.
Now is the time to deploy the maximum of your armor and devise a strategy to win. The map is big, with the lots of open ground suitable for armored offensive operations. Opposition is tough and victory is not a given especially if you play it for the first time.
Personally, is the second time I encounter Prokhorovka, first was during my Rommel play through, now in Manstein. Actually you can win with a decisive here with most of diff settings. Do not know about Ultimate, hopefully this will be proved by Goose.
Ending soft cup 87%, with a DV at turn 22.
Lots of great players have also shared their experiences with this map and they can be found in this forum or You Tube, look for them.
My plan for this map is an alteration from Braccada on Rommel difficulty, changing lots of things, since on Manstein (+5 strength to AI) is a different case.
AI experience 2 stars. It is a hot Summer 43 time, get ready for action in the Eastern Front.
Turns 22
Weather is fine it’s a July scenario
AI experience: 200 (2 stars)
Auxiliary units: A marvelous Knipsel’s Tiger I, one Me 109 fighter entering on round 2 and three mobile Flaks from the start
Units deployed:
Re- checked the file there were among others
9 Tigers, 5 regular, 4 SE.
4 Stug
9 Infantry of which 2 SE
12 Artilleries
4 tactical bombers
1 level bomber
End soft cap 87%
DV at turn 22/22 to win the prestige per turn 200
There were some losses mainly to over strengths, hence the soft cap ending
Units were divided in three zones of deployment.
NW Battle Group with the objective to slowly advance reaching Psel, do the crossing assist the southern attacks and possibly help in encirclement
Battle Group Knipsel which is basically an army of one with few more units assisting the tremendous auxiliary Tiger offered for this map
SE Battle Group is the main attacking force that will drive to Prokhorovka
Last edited by faos333 on Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:42 am, edited 5 times in total.
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Prokhorovka map strategy plan
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
-
- Tournament Organizer of the Year 2017
- Posts: 3207
- Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:22 am
- Location: Winterset, Iowa
- Contact:
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
have you ever gone the other way. Ponyri?
goose_2
Lutheran Multiplayer Tournament Organizer.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRHQShaOv5PWoer6cP1syLQ
Lutheran Multiplayer Tournament Organizer.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRHQShaOv5PWoer6cP1syLQ
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Ponyri? I can not find it on the map.
Where is it?
I see Yakovlevo from the south as an alternative
Battlefield Europe get the most from Panzer Corps
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
Download the new 2.4 Mod here http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47985
-
- Sergeant First Class - Elite Panzer IIIL
- Posts: 420
- Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:43 am
- Location: Dallas TX
Re: Never Ending Game... Campaign Log 43 East Manstein diff
Your approach is attacking the Kursk bulge from the south. After the Orel scenario, you are given a choice. You can either attack from the north, or attack from the south as you did. I think that's what Goose means.