SS Core run through 39 to 45?

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SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:54 am

Hi all,
After completing a run through from 39 to 45 Just! I thought I would re do it, using Nico's excellent new Equipment Fill and only use SS equipment and troops where available. I will convert captured and awarded units to the nearest SS unit at much greater cost. I finished the last run through with about 4000 points after final replacements and extra's so I doubt that I will get that far as the SS infantry and tanks are 50% dearer to buy, replenish and re-enforce. I will also try to give a better description of how I fight each battle. Thanks to Nico.

I started with Nico's extended 39 game. In the extra first game you get a panzer iii E only and then capture the flag in 1 move. This is to allow you to pick your own force make up for the first real game of the Polish Campaign Poznan.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:26 pm

Poznan

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 3650
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 62 points

Core
1x Panzer IIIE up graded to SS Panzer IIIE
Purchased
3x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon (no SS recon available yet!)
2x SS Panzer IIIE
2x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B

and Ju 87B Recon awarded during the game.


I split the Core into a small Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18, 1x PzII and a PzIII to take Nowy tomysl and then the airfield and the lay siege to Poznan.
2nd Kamf, 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18, 1x Sturm and a PzIII through the centre taking Leszno, jarocin, Kalisz, Konin and then swing round to attack Poznan from the rear.
3rd Kamf, 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18, 1x PzII and a PzIII Taking the Airfield at 19,14 then Wielun and Sieradz befor joining up with Kamf group 2.

I gained a DV after 10/14 turns and finished on 1044 points

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:56 pm

Danzig Corridor

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 1144
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 854 points

Core
3x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon (no SS recon available yet!)
3x SS Panzer IIIE Plus 1x SS Panzer IIIE (SE awarded at start of this game)
2x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks plus 1x 10.5 le FH 18 and Truck purchased
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon

The Small Auxillary Kamf take the Airfield then attack Bydoszoz, after it falls they then take the Rail bridge and then Grudziadz.

I split the Core into a small Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, 2x Sturm, 1x PzII and a PzIII to take Czarnkow, Pila, Walcz, Bydoszoz then attack the rear of Torun and Wabrzezno.
2nd Kamf, 1x GebirgsJager, 2x FH 18,and a PzIII through the centre taking wagrowiec, inowroclaw. Torin, and then Rypin.
3rd Kamf, 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18, 1x PzII and 2x PzIII Taking Gniezno then splitting with Pz III and art attacking bridge at 16,25, the rest of the force take Wioclawek, the airfield and bridge then moving on to take Skepe and attacking Rypin from the south.


I gained a DV with all Flags after 9/14 turns and finished on 2216 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Lodz

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 2366
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 2172 points

Core
3x SS GebirgsJager Awarded additional Gebirgsjager ( +3 Movement +3 initiative) During the game
2x Panzer IID used as Recon (no SS recon available yet!)
3x SS Panzer IIIE Plus 1x SS Panzer IIIE (SE awarded at start of this game)
2x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks plus 1x 10.5 le FH 18 and Truck purchased
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon


I split the Core into a small Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18, 1x PzII to takeKalisz, Turek, Konin, Leczyce and then Piatek.
2nd Kamf, all other units take Sieradz, Lask, Zelow, Piotrkow then join the Aux Kamf laying siege to Lodz and taking Brzeziny, Glowno, the airfield and Lowicz
Aux kamf, takes the airfield at 21,18 then Tomazow then joining Kamf group 2.

I gained a DV with after 9/13 turns and finished on 3336 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:11 pm

Piatek

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 3536
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 3336 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon (no SS recon available yet!)
4x SS Panzer IIIE )
4x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon


I split the Core into small Kamf groups of 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18 or strum panzer backed up by a tank, each holding a flag, The Aux units A/T and Arty holding Ozorkow plus a recon unit, about turn 10 I sent the recon to take Leczyca, daszyna, then the Airfield at 2,9. then on to Kutno and Orlow.

The rest of the units hold their flags using arty and Airpower to hit units trying to force crossings. some units required re-enforcing during the game but all held. tank units moved to counter attack at Bzura, after defeating the attackers, helped by airpower they move on to take back Bakow, Sleszyn and Orlow.

I gained a DV with after 20/20 turns and finished on 3984 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:36 pm

Kampinsoka Forrest

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 4084
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 3524points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager (sorry had to update the standard unit to SS ,I forgot)
2x Panzer IID used as Recon (no SS recon available yet!)
4x SS Panzer IIIE )
4x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon


I split the Core into 3 Kamf,
1) a small Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18 and a recon take Wisla, Wyszogrod and Kodyinkl the join the centre kamf.
2) the main group figt their way across the river and through the Forrest to Turskaw
3) small Kamf of Pz III, inf, art and recon take the southern route capturing Guzow, Grodzisk and Airfield, then onto Blonie, Pruszkow and joining the centre for the attack on Turskaw.

I gained a DV with after 10/16 turns and finished on 4318 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:44 am

Modlin

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 4618
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 4383 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
4x SS Panzer IIIE )
1x Pz 38t awarded during the game +2 Attack, +2 Defence, +2 Spotting.
4x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon


I split the Core into 3 Kamf,
1) a Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, 2x FH 18, 2x Panzer III and a recon are tasked with taking the targets across the top of the map and then down the East side of the map to take Modlin from behind. they take Pezasnysz, Ostroleka + Airport, Piltusk, Wyszkow, Radzymin, the Fort and Airport and the Airfield and Modlin fort.
2) the main group fight their way down the map to the river at Modlin capturing all the flags on the way.

I gained a DV with after 13/17 turns and finished on 5451 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:08 am

Warsaw North

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 5751
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 4992 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
5x SS Panzer IIIE, including 1x Pz 38t up graded to SS Pz III
4x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
1x 10.5 captured Polish art during the game.
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon


I split the Core into 2 Kamf,
1) a Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, 1x FH 18, 2x Panzer III and a recon are tasked with swing around Warsaw and taking the outlying targets on the map and then to lay siege to Warsaw with the captured Polish Arty.
2) The Aux units in the south Infantry, Arty and Pz1 take Gora, Otwork, and Gadka before joining Kamf 1 in the siege.
3) the main group fight their in to Warsaw taking every Flag, every step is supported by Art and Sturmpanzers. Slow but totally overpowering and keeps casualties low.

I gained a DV with after 13/20 turns and finished on 6871 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:37 am

The Russians, The spoils of war.

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 7571
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 7315 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
5x SS Panzer IIIE,
5x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks including 1x 10.5 captured Polish art upgraded to le FH 18.
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon
1x Bf 110C Attack +1 Initiative +6 awarded during the game

I split the Core into 3 Kamf,
1) a Kamf group of 1x GebirgsJager, Panzer III along with Aux kavallerie and a panzerJager. They are tasked to take Wyszkow, Ciechanowiec, Kleszczele, the Airfield at 26,9 and then attack Brest from the rear.
2) kamf units in the south were Infantry, 2x Arty, 2x PzIII and Aux kavallerie and a panzerJager. Take all the flags in the south until reaching Brest and laying siege.
3) the main Kamf 2x inf, 2x Pz III, 3x Art, 2x Sturmpanzer and a SDKfz 10/4 fight their in to Brest taking every Flag, every step is supported by Art and Sturmpanzers. Slow but totally overpowering and keeps casualties low.

I gained a DV with after 12/21 turns and finished on 8469 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:55 pm

Oslo.

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 9219
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 8886 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
5x SS Panzer IIIE,
5x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon
1x Bf 110C Attack

I split the Core into 3 Kamf,
1) a Kamf group of 2x GebirgsJager, 2x Art in support of 2x Aux FJ (who Take Askin and its airfield). They capture Fredrikstrad and Moss before joining the FJ and taking the forts at Oscarsbors, The forts had been under attack from Blutcher and Me110's and a Ju87. I lost the destroyer with Blucher in turn 2. The enlarged kamf then take Lillestrom, Jessheim and attack Oslo and its Airfield from the rear.
2)A small kamf of 1x GebirgsJager, 1x Sturmpanzer and a PzIII take Porsgrunn, Notodden and its airfield, then join the attack on Sandvika, oslo and Honefoss.
3)The remaining Kamp of 4x Pziii, 3x Arty, 1x Sturmpanzer and a GebirgsJager, land and take all flags until they join Kamf 2 to finish of the attacks.

I gained a DV with after 9/14 turns and finished on 10086 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by goose_2 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:43 pm

I am following this with great interest.
In order to compare to my playthrough:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 98#p558398

This is what I ended 1939 with:
Prestige ending with 8575

Finished 1939 with the following
3 reg inf all with 1 star experience, 1 with +1 def hero, SE unit with +1 attack hero
2 Gerbisjager Oleh Der with 2 stars exp, other with 1 star and +1 def hero
2 Pionier Units both with 1 star experience
2 Fallschimjager
12 artillery 6 towed 6 Self Propelled most with 2 stars experience
2 Pz 38tA both with a star of experience and of course Albert Kerscher
3 Pz3F all with 1 star experience and 1 with +1 attack hero
1 Recon with 1 star
2 AT self propelled units
2 AA 8.8 both with 1 star of experience
3 fighters all with 1 star experience
3 Fighter Bombers including Rudel and Lent all with 1 star
4 tac Bombers 2 with 2 stars 2 with 1 star
2 Strat Bombers 1 with 2 stars 1 with 1 star

You seem to be retaining much more prestige where I have been able to retain a lot more units.

I believe that building up multiple units early is essential to helping absorb some painful losses that are inevitable to come.

I am in 1945 but have not been able to touch as been playing too much multiplayer.
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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by goose_2 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:45 pm

By the way I like the way you lay it out quick, clean, and concise.

I could learn from that. :oops:
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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by nikivdd » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:38 pm

You both have an interesting core composition :)
In earlier playthroughs, i always bought one or two 88s but not anymore; at a certain point i purchase one or two self-propelled AA units. I rely on the four Stukas to give the French tanks hell.
I never had much faith in the Sturmpanzer, and if i purchase one early on, i will upgrade to a StuG IIIA as soon as it becomes available.
I made the Pz IIs much more interesting because of the recon move trait, and as a result i completely ignore the recon section. Naturally, i am anxious to find out - possibly in DLC 41 - how eager the AI will be to target the Pz IIs.
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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:47 pm

Hi Goose,
I enjoy your reports, I just did not record enough information to feed back to your level, I am trying to give a little more this time around. I think in this 39 game your force is worth a lot more than mine if you totalled it up. Every piece of SS that I buy, replace or re-enforce costs 50% more than the normal units. therefore to stand any chance to get to 44 or 45 I need to save every point, buy and upgrade very carefully, as well as no over strengthening tanks and infantry yet. I am not sure which way I will go this time, Russia or Sea-lion and Africa corps.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:30 pm

Hi Nico,
I am slightly cheating with the Recon move Pz II, like you I hope that they will escape targeting, but if not I will upgrade them to main battle tanks (my cheat), I also want to try and up grade them to the Pz II Flame if they still have the recon move and if it's allowed. I have stopped buying AA if fighting on the Russian Front as you get at least 4 or it might be 5 including mobile at the game (Peltava Raid??)before Mogilev. I find the Sturmpanzer fine until it is replaced by the Sig 33


Thanks for the Feedback

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:42 pm

Lilliehammer

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 10486
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 10470 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
5x SS Panzer IIIE,
5x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon
1x Bf 110D upgraded fromC

I split the Core into 2 Kamf,
1) a Kamf group of 2x GebirgsJager, 1x Art and 2x Sturmpanzers in support of 2x PzIII's, They attack and take the Norwegian Town at 14,16, then split and take Hamar,Elverum and the towns at 16,6 and 11,9, then flank and take Lilliehammer from the south and East.
2)the other kamf of 2x GebirgsJager, 4x Arty and 3x PzIII take They capture the Norwegian Town at 7'14, Gjevik and Airfield, Vigrom, Segalstad then take Folliebu and then joining the attack on Lilliehammer.
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I gained a DV with after 12/18 turns and finished on 11482 points with no core losses.

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:26 pm

Last Battle of 39
Narvik

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 11982
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 11145 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
5x SS Panzer IIIE,
5x 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks
2x Sturmpanzer 1
1x BF 109E
1x BF 109D
1x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon
1x Bf 110D
2x Ju 88A Purchased

I used the Ju88's, Ju87 and Bf 110 to hunt and destroy the allied Fleet in support of the Kriegsmarine. I immediately re-enforced the 2 sets of Aux FJ and infantry
I split the Core into 2 Kamf,
1) a Kamf group of 2x GebirgsJager, 3x Art and 2x PzIII's, They attack and take the town and Airfield at 24,8, then attack Bogen. They then join the Aux Fj and infantry who attacked and took Bjerkvik while drawing fire from 3 destroyers! They join and take Narvik from the North.
2)the other kamf of 2x GebirgsJager, 3x Arty and 2x PzIII take They capture Ballangen, Then the Norwegian Town at 28,11, and Airfield. They then Join the Aux Fj and Infantry and attack Narvik from the south.
The victorious German heavies then join the bombardment of Narvik, which makes the attack easy. I kept the game going until turn 18 as I got lots of extra points by forcing units to surrender on the bridge.

I gained a DV with after 18/18 turns and finished on 12207 points with no core losses. 39 Ended no core losses !

Martin

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:02 pm

40 The Fall of France and the Low countries,

Eben Emel

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 12807
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 11134 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager All 4 are 2 Star,
2x Panzer IID used as Recon 1x 1 star 1x 2 star
5x SS Panzer IIIE, 1x 1 star 4x 2 star
1x SS Panzer IV D Awarded at start of Game. 0 star
5x 15cm le FH 18 plus Sdkfz 250 upgraded from 10.5 le FH 18 plus trucks 1x 1 star 4x 2 star
2x Sturmpanzer 1 2x 2 star
2x BF 109E both 2 stars
1x Ju 87B 2 stars
1x Ju 87B Recon 2 stars
1x Bf 110D 1 star
2x Ju 88A Purchased both 1 star
Purchased another Ju 87B 0 stars.

When I checked against previous games at the same point, I am 100 point less and 1 unit (Ju88) more, however since non of my tanks, recon or infantry have been over strengthened, I must be 1000's less in reality.


Game report to follow
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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:18 pm

Hi,
I have just checked how much it would have cost me to over strength my infantry, Recon and Tank units to the MAX. I expected it to cost me 1000's, however after checking it would have only cost me 716 points to MAX them. Therefore to use only SS infantry and Tanks have only cost me 850 points in total, cheap so far ! but I am sure as trucks become half tracks and Pz III E's become G,H or even M's or Panthers and Tigers the points will be crippling and will stop me over strengthening them. Time will tell.... Great fun so far...

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Re: SS Core run through 39 to 45?

Post by milliethedog » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:07 pm

Eben Emel

Field marshal Level, Starting Points 12807
After Replenishment and re-enforcements 11134 points

Core
4x SS GebirgsJager
2x Panzer IID used as Recon
5x SS Panzer IIIE,
1x SS Panzer IV D Awarded at start of Game.
5x 15cm le FH 18 plus Sdkfz 250
2x Sturmpanzer 1
2x BF 109E
3x Ju 87B
1x Ju 87B Recon
1x Bf 110D
2x Ju 88A

A Kamf group of a PzIV, 1x infantry, I x arty and the Aux 222 take Noorbeek, Margraten and Vallcenberg before leaving the 222 to guard the back of Masstritch, the troops the join the main body for the attack on Juprelle

The main body attack the forts in support of the 2 aux pioneers and put them under continuous air attack from the ju87's and 110. After destroying all the fortifications the group splits into two with the 1st group attacking North. They first take Riemst and then the key airfield at 4,5 badly needed for the tac bombers and support. Once resupplied all the units take every town/Flag North of the river Jecker. The rest of the main group battle down to the south using massed Arty and Panzers via Juprelle and finally down to victory at Liege

I gained a DV with after 13/15 turns and finished on 12538 points with no core losses.
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