Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strategy"

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by VPaulus » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:34 pm

Chris in my opinion the wings are not in the PzC perspective.
Besides you've to be carefully with the Finnish Swastika you cannot invert it. :wink:
I prefer to cut the wings from a similar wings geometry plane:

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with wings markings:

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The problem with the wing markings is that I cannot recreate the corrects perspective.
With these, you can use the animation offset values of the Breda BA.65.

As for the Blenheim I can do it, but maybe only tomorrow or after.

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:10 am

VPaulus wrote:Chris in my opinion the wings are not in the PzC perspective.
Besides you've to be carefully with the Finnish Swastika you cannot invert it. :wink:
I prefer to cut the wings from a similar wings geometry plane:

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with wings markings:

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The problem with the wing markings is that I cannot recreate the corrects perspective.
With these, you can use the animation offset values of the Breda BA.65.

As for the Blenheim I can do it, but maybe only tomorrow or after.
Yeah,you are right...thats cool...to be honest I havent thought about cutting the wings from another plane...I was so lucky having found a CurtisP36 in a nearly correct persepective...I didnt really looked at the wings as I have done the unit over paper..I didnt put it into the game to compare :D ...thnx for the correction... you are the real PixelMaster :mrgreen:
Dot you worry Paulo...time is not of essence with the units. If you can help me out with one or another Iam very thankful..its irrelevant if it takes one day or one week :wink:


flakfernrohr wrote: I found a picture from IL-2 which has great graphic BTW. I used to play it a lot and have tons of it and mods on my computers but I haven't messed with it for a long time.
Dwight... :lol: ..I was referring to find a picture in the right PzC perspective. I have 3ds Max and I could probably do the unit from scratch but since Iam not very experienced with it, it would me take days and a few attempts, even for a low poly model. The effort would not be in proportion to its end.

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by nikivdd » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:17 pm

Chris, if i can dig them up, i have a whole bunch of finnish planes. I'll check this evening.
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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:36 pm

nikivdd wrote:Chris, if i can dig them up, i have a whole bunch of finnish planes. I'll check this evening.
oh...that' ll be great..I have looked at DMPs Winter War but their units are very far away from vanilla appearance..it fits ok with their graphical style but doesnt fit to well wit PzC style :roll:

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by nikivdd » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:56 pm

Chris10 wrote:
nikivdd wrote:Chris, if i can dig them up, i have a whole bunch of finnish planes. I'll check this evening.
oh...that' ll be great..I have looked at DMPs Winter War but their units are very far away from vanilla appearance..it fits ok with their graphical style but doesnt fit to well wit PzC style :roll:
Found and sent them to ya.
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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by bebro » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:47 pm

VPaulus wrote: with wings markings:

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The problem with the wing markings is that I cannot recreate the corrects perspective.
With these, you can use the animation offset values of the Breda BA.65.

As for the Blenheim I can do it, but maybe only tomorrow or after.
If you have the markings (on the wings) as independant objects/layers, it could help to reduce their size with anti-alias active, but only in Y direction (so the "height") to achieve the perspective look. It probably gets blurry then, so I'd sharpen a bit. That will give not perfect markings still, but it could be worth trying...

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:58 pm

nikivdd wrote:
Chris10 wrote:
nikivdd wrote:Chris, if i can dig them up, i have a whole bunch of finnish planes. I'll check this evening.
oh...that' ll be great..I have looked at DMPs Winter War but their units are very far away from vanilla appearance..it fits ok with their graphical style but doesnt fit to well wit PzC style :roll:
Found and sent them to ya.

AWEEEEEEESOME Nico... :D ...they are all there...
Fokker,Blendheim,Fiat,Curtiss,Brewster ...complete package...
Do you remember if there were ever some offsets provided to them ?
If not..well...I just fiddel around with them until I find something suitable...


Paulo...only thing needed now would be the Bf-109, if you feel like doin it..if not,no worrys.. I will do it at a later stage... :wink:
bebro wrote: If you have the markings (on the wings) as independant objects/layers, it could help to reduce their size with anti-alias active, but only in Y direction (so the "height") to achieve the perspective look. It probably gets blurry then, so I'd sharpen a bit. That will give not perfect markings still, but it could be worth trying...
+1...
stretched to an oval by reducing the y axis and extending the x axis a bit usually gets good results and looks pretty perspective like

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by nikivdd » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:11 pm

The rar includes the efx and e-file data in a txt file . For the efile, this were values i chose myself. The efx, well i cannot vouch that everything is perfect ;).
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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by VPaulus » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:17 pm

Thanks for the tip bebro. It surely improved it:

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or

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:22 pm

nikivdd wrote:The rar includes the efx and e-file data in a txt file . For the efile, this were values i chose myself. The efx, well i cannot vouch that everything is perfect ;).
Ups..stupid me.
I extracted into my Finland folder and didnt realized the new txt file among all the other files :wink:

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by VPaulus » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:49 pm

Which bf-109 version?

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:53 pm

VPaulus wrote:Thanks for the tip bebro. It surely improved it:
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yeah..its obvioulsy easier to do it while the model is still big (300-400px) and having the markings as independent layers...
once working on such small models things become pretty tricky

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:55 pm

VPaulus wrote:Which bf-109 version?
Bf-109 G
but if you look at them closely they all the same model..only difference is the letter on the body
so if the letter gets covered with somehting different it doesnt really matter what image you take

since Iam tired of coding right now Iam fiddeling around with the map..making a bit more finetuning...then I get my hands on the soviets..and then finish with finland and croatia

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by VPaulus » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:47 am

Finnish BF-109G:

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Hungarian BF-109 with wing markings corrected:

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:33 pm

VPaulus wrote:Finnish BF-109G:

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Hungarian BF-109 with wing markings corrected:

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Wonderful... :D ...these are great
now Finnish and Hungarian rosters are complete :)
things getting into shape little by little...

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:17 pm

___________________________________UPDATE 28.08.2012_____________________________________

Finally reworked the map and made some further finetuning using some of Massis new tiles but after making some tests I decided to stay as close as possible to vanilla style to not clutter up the overall appearance

These map is final now



BERLIN
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WARSAW
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MINSK
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LARGER KIEV AREA
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LENINGRAD
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MOSCOW
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STALINGRAD
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ROM-RUSS BORDER AROUND GALATI AND GREATER DANUBE RIVER DELTA AREA
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GREATER CRIMEA AREA WITH SEVASTOPOL
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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by bebro » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:20 pm

Great work...I love the big cities :)

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by nikivdd » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:45 pm

Impressive, most impressive!
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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by flakfernrohr » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:09 pm

Chris, those maps look marvellous. I am going to enjoy playing on those kinds of maps. I agree about clean maps. I love Massi's tiles and use them much more than vanilla, but it is easy to get carried away since his tiles are so good and varied. They are like using different flavors of ice cream when you love it all. LOL>
Old Timer Panzer General fan. Maybe a Volksturm soldier now. Did they let Volksturm drive Panzers?

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Re: Panzer Corps East - The struggle for Russia "Grand Strat

Post by Chris10 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:14 pm

thnx guys...very kind of you :)

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