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kaiser6977
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Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:11 pm

Besides having an airfield with a flag on it, what else do yo need for an airfield to be recognized by the same countries aircraft to be able to refuel?

Thanks in advance,
Kyle

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Razz1 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:14 am

you need to own it for two turns.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:28 am

Thank you for your reply.

It is the airfield owned by the country in the beginning of the scenario as well as two turns later it still won't refuel the planes. Is there something else I am missing?

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Razz1 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:36 am

Have you modified the equipment file?

The flag and the plane have to be the same country or you have to choose share flags.

Also, that country must be active in the scenario.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:41 am

I have not modified the equipment file.

The flag and the planes are German and the Germans are active in the scenario.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by captainjack » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:10 am

Razz1 - are you sure it's 2 turns for an airfield?
More than once when playing DLCs I have had an empty or almost empty aircraft sitting over an airfield, captured the airfield and resupplied the aircraft in the same turn.

And yes, I know the plane automatically refuels and rearms next turn, but pressing the supply button means it can fight back immediately if attacked during the enemy phase.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Tarrak » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:32 am

captainjack wrote:Razz1 - are you sure it's 2 turns for an airfield?
More than once when playing DLCs I have had an empty or almost empty aircraft sitting over an airfield, captured the airfield and resupplied the aircraft in the same turn.

And yes, I know the plane automatically refuels and rearms next turn, but pressing the supply button means it can fight back immediately if attacked during the enemy phase.
I had the same happen shortly and i can confirm you can resupply directly at an airfield after it got taken in the same round as long there is no enemy unit below your plane. I had one plane parked exactly over the freshly captured airfield and two at neighboring hexes. One above an enemy unit, one above a free hex. The plane directly over the airfield and the one above the empty hex got resupplied, the one above the enemy unit did not.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:27 pm

I still can not get the aircraft to refuel... Please, anymore help? Please take a look at the attached pic. What you see is true for all the aircraft even though the airfield belongs to the Germans at the begining of the scenario.

Thanks,
Kyle
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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Tarrak » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:01 pm

Is that a map you created or is happening on some stock map? In case it's a self created map could you upload it somewhere and post a link here so we can have a look at it. If it's any of the stock maps please post which and maybe upload your save game so we can take a look at it as well. From just looking at the picture and your description all i can say is "it should work" but clearly it doesn't.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:14 pm

It is a custom map, here is the Dropbox link:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/450 ... hine.pzscn

Thank you,

Kyle

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Tarrak » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:09 pm

The solution is quite simple i think. All your airfield are actually just overlays. Overlays are eye candy but the game itself draws the info from the type of the hexfield. When you open the map in the editor press space and you can see the terrain details (you may have to remove the units to clearly see it). Then chose terrain from the edit menu and use the airfield tile on the airfields. You should as well use the city tile on the cities as well.

Another remark: Your river is actually a sea. There are some differences between them both. For example a see field will never freeze no matter what the weather is unlike rivers. Seas, along with major rivers are impassable at all. Small rivers can be passed by ground units but they expend all movement points by moving on it so it slows then down. If you want to make rivers just define the river fields as clear hexes and chose "Terrain features" from the edit menu to draw rivers. The thick blue lines are the major rivers, the thin one the small ones. The other two are roads and railroads.

After you are done don't forget to use the generate tiles option from the tools menu. This will automatically generate the proper graphic for the defined tiles. After this step you still can and should use the overlays to change the automatically generated graphics to improve the optics and fixed any possible optical problems.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:37 pm

Thank you, that fixed it!

No the issue with the river, how do you make passable when you draw it with the major river feature and bridge across it?

Currently units cannot cross the bridge after I drew the rivers in.

Thank you,
Kyle

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by kaiser6977 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:44 pm

Nevermind, I figured it out. If I draw in the road, it works.

Thanks again for all the help.

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Tarrak » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:07 pm

Glad its working for you now. Have fun experimenting with the mission editor and if you have any more question feel free to come back and ask again. Considering you will be going deeper and deeper into the scenario design stuff i probably won't be able to help you out soon anymore but we got a load of experienced moders here which certainly will. :)

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by BiteNibbleChomp » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:24 am

I learnt all this the hard way last year when I developed Panzer Fury and the early versions of War of the World - you'll find it quite easy once you know what you're doing! Feel free to post or PM me if you have any problems. By the way, great username - it references my latest mod!

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Wellingham » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:52 am

I just hated this. It happened to me in Vyazma. I was so annoyed. I thought my game had gone mad, you know, invaded by those dastardly stormtroopers. Hahaha! Thnks!

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Re: Aircraft and Airfields, not able to refuel

Post by Rowan56 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:36 pm

I have just started out with the Editor; must remember the overlays and naming the hex as I had the same problem with airfields.
Very impressed with Editor.

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