Typical Western European troops

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Typical Western European troops

Post by IainMcNeil » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:52 am

I know this is tricky to do because things varied by nationality, time period, region etc, but if you were trying to pick a single source image for the following troop types what would you think woudl be the most typical and graphically pleasing. We're looking for something that would do for a Western Medieval setting.

* Early medieval infantry (spear, halberd, pike)
* Mid period infantry
* Late medieval infantry

* Early medieval missile troops (archer/xb, handgun)
* Mid period missile troops
* Late medieval missile troops

* Early medieval knight
* Mid period knight
* Late medieval knight

Any suggestions welcome :)

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Post by nikgaukroger » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:49 am

What dates, roughly, do you have in mind for early, mid and late?

Makes a difference especially for knightly armour :)
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Post by IainMcNeil » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:46 am

It does not need to be any specific date - it's just about showing progression from early cheap units to later more powerful & expensive ones.

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Post by nikgaukroger » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:54 am

Well for knights you could have a progression something like:

Early - take from Bayeaux tapestry; mail hauberk, kite shield, nasal helm, no horse trapper, etc.

Mid - full mail, enclosed helm, heater shield, surcoat, horse trapper/barding with heraldry. Much like the chap on the front of Strom of Arrows in fact.

Late - full plate armour in either Milanese or German style (German with sallet or Milanese with barbute would be fairly recognisable), no surcoat, etc, horse with partial plate barding.
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Post by karakhanid » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:13 pm

Hello:
Early medieval missile troops (archer/xb, handgun) :Norman/French unarmored archer
* Mid period missile troops: English longbowman / Genovese crossbowman
* Late medieval missile troops :French/Burgundian ordonnance archer/Castilian Santa Hermandad crossbowmen/ German Handgunners
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Post by korvus » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:06 am

You might want to start with Edge and Paddock's "Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight", its a nice summary of the evolution of arms and armour not just of knights but of all types of European soldiers, and neatly broken down by centuries...

Have fun!
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Post by nikgaukroger » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:24 am

korvus wrote:You might want to start with Edge and Paddock's "Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight", its a nice summary of the evolution of arms and armour not just of knights but of all types of European soldiers, and neatly broken down by centuries...

Have fun!
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Which I think I have if you (Iain) want to borrow it.
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Post by IainMcNeil » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:02 am

Thanks Nik - it's not important that things are that accurate for this, just a rough progression so I'll probably just grab some images off the web and guess at it to keep it quick and simple :)

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