pike joke ???

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pike joke ???

Post by Sennacherib » Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:09 am

i was badly surprise to see that pike units always won fight against enemy in difficult terrain !!! is this a joke ???
so medium infantry defending terrain are useless, defending a village they loose against pike, a wood ??? the same, in a campaign against swiss, four missile units in wood were destroyed by elite pike units !!!
i never see in a game rules that close order troops can win ( except with very good luck) in difficult terrain against open order or skirmish troops except maybe in Warhammer......
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Post by Miletus » Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:40 pm

Very disappointing to read this post. I was hoping for an authentic pike joke, preferably from the relevant period. I'll have to go back to pulling crackers and hoping for the best now...
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Re: pike joke ???

Post by Sennacherib » Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:41 pm

Try to play a campaign against swiss with french, they have no cavalry but evade battle like mongol, without art they have 50% chance to take province in one round surely because they are elite, at the end of the first year they raise another ten thousand elite pikemen when you raise maximum 6 thousand of various quality, your knight are useless you have to make ten battle turns to take position in the rear of a pike block and even in this way you can easily loose, they are elite !!!! they won combat in difficult terrain, i don't understand why they do not rule the world !!!! :D

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Post by TheGrayMouser » Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:47 pm

What the specific situation?

I have no problem with a 2000 man keil defeating 500 "medium" troops in the woods....

also
I don't think woods are supposed to represent primordeal forests a single man would need a machete to move thru
and
most keils would have several hundred sword and buckler/halberdiers to aid in such situations
The game assumes some abstractions of course. Just because the rules in game don't allow pikes men to put down there pikes, draw side arms and assume open formations to climb thru house windows in a village doesn't mean its not mean that would have happened in real life.

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Post by TheGrayMouser » Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:51 pm

Miletus wrote:Very disappointing to read this post. I was hoping for an authentic pike joke, preferably from the relevant period. I'll have to go back to pulling crackers and hoping for the best now...
No one should be disappointed on xmas:

(you must fish to get these)

What do you get is you cross a rose with a pike?
I don't know but I wouldn't put my nose too close to smell it

What has big sharp teeth, a tail, scales, and a trunk?
A pike going on holiday.

How do you kiss a pike?
Very carefully
(this one actually dates from a linear B scribble from ancient clay pot.)

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Post by Miletus » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:10 pm

Thank you for those jokes. Do we get to call you Private Pike from now on?!?
Hope you had a good Xmas!
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Post by redcoat » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:41 pm

England 1642

A Royalist pikeman was staggering home with a bottle of beer in his snap sack when he slipped and fell heavily. Struggling to his feet, he felt something wet running down his leg. "Please Lord," he implored, "let it be blood!!"

A Royalist pikeman stumbles up to the only other drinker in the Inn and asks if he could buy him a drink. "Why, of course," comes the reply. The first man then asks, "Where are you from?" "I'm from York," replies the second man. The first man responds: "You don't say, I'm from York too! Let's have another round to York." "Of course," says the second. Curious, the first asks: "Where in York?" "Micklegate," comes the reply. "I can't believe it, Me too! Lets have another round of drinks to Micklegate." "Of course" The second man can't help himself so he asks, "What school did you go to?" "St Cuthberts", replies the first man. "I left in '38." "This is becoming unbelievable!!!" They say in unison. About that time, in comes their CO and sits down at the bar. "What's up?" he asks the barman. "Nothing much," replied the barman. "The twins are drunk again!"

A Royalist pikeman arrived at the guard tent and wandered around with tears streaming down his cheeks.
“Are you alright?” asked one of the guards.
"No," replied the pikeman. "I've lost everything!"
"How'd that happen?" asked the guard.
"The cork fell out!" said the pikeman.

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Post by SteveD64 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:08 pm

A sad pike man walks into a bar.

Bartender says, "Why the long stave?"

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Post by Miletus » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:18 am

Two Sealed Knot re-enactors bump into each other in a bar.
"So", says the first re-enactor, "what do you do?"
"I'm a musketeer", replies his new chum. "How about you?"
"Me? Oh, I'm a pikeman", the first guy replies.
"Wow", says the second re-enactor. "You're not a mate of David Cameron's are you?"
"What on earth do you mean?" says the first bloke.
"Oops, sorry", the second re-enactor replies, "my hearing isn't as good as it used to be. I thought you said you were a pork man..."
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Post by Miletus » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:26 am

There was a young pikeman from Rhyll
Who ran from the field at Edgehill
When friends asked him why
He replied with a sigh
“The sight of blood makes me quite ill”
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Post by pyrrhus17 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:56 pm

Its no joke whats a joke is that we all bought this game . Been playing this off and on hoping it gets better but I have to say . No it doesn't . Pretty looking game but that is about it all hype for a bad game just Like FOG . oh wait same rules dev same rerun of bad concept. please Richard Bodley Scott retire Please !

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Post by zakblood » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:01 pm

not very nice comments tbh :cry:

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Post by VPaulus » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:31 pm

pyrrhus17 wrote:Its no joke whats a joke is that we all bought this game . Been playing this off and on hoping it gets better but I have to say . No it doesn't . Pretty looking game but that is about it all hype for a bad game just Like FOG . oh wait same rules dev same rerun of bad concept. please Richard Bodley Scott retire Please !
You can freely criticize the game. What you aren't entitled in this forum is to be rude.
Please be civil...

P.S. And sorry... Richard won't retire.

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Post by IainMcNeil » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:09 am

Take this as an official warning Pyrrhus. Make another comment like that and you will be banned.

You dont like the game - fine. The vast majority love it and its had a huge amount of support and improvements and was already a good game when it released.

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Post by Warlord156 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:24 pm

Not sure what the problem is with Pyrrhus 17. But the easiest solution has to be to just stop playing the game if you do not like it. I see no reason to bad mouth Richard, who clearly put his heart and soul into creating this game, and continues to do so. No game is ever going to be all things to all men.
Many people have added content to this game, myself included. So there is proof enough that the game is ok. There a few features in the game that I would have done differently ( if I had the talent), but overall myself and others are more than pleased with the game............ OK rant over.

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Post by Miletus » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:25 am

pyrrhus17 wrote:Its no joke whats a joke is that we all bought this game . Been playing this off and on hoping it gets better but I have to say . No it doesn't . Pretty looking game but that is about it all hype for a bad game just Like FOG . oh wait same rules dev same rerun of bad concept. please Richard Bodley Scott retire Please !
Pyrrhus17:

As you're probably in a minority of one as regards your views on this fantastic game, it's entirely inappropriate for you to use the royal "we" in your discourteous email (as in "we all bought this game").

Moreover, your personal comment about Richard Bodley Scott is completely out of order. I've never come across a games developer who is so open to hearing user feedback and responding to it online.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RBS, AND DON'T LET THE TROLLS GET YOU DOWN! 8)
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