Yes, you still earn CD points for each/all bonus objectives. Some of them are used for prototype and/or Soviet equipment so read carefully and decide if you really want it or not. If not, once again, it isn't imperative for you to meet them all to get the "best stuff." I usually do, however, and accept all of the offers even if it involves enemy equipment that I usually don't use.
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What I meant is wether you can take all the commendation rewards so long as you do all the bonus objectives. You had to skip at least one in AO'41 early on, and I'd hate to end up having to skip something because I took earlier rewards that are less enticing.adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:05 pmYes, you still earn CD points for each/all bonus objectives. Some of them are used for prototype and/or Soviet equipment so read carefully and decide if you really want it or not. If not, once again, it isn't imperative for you to meet them all to get the "best stuff." I usually do, however, and accept all of the offers even if it involves enemy equipment that I usually don't use.
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I'm afraid due to work and other stuff I'm only about halfway through the Campaign, but based on my notes I do believe that there is at least one point where Commendations needed for everything temporarily exceeds max Commendations available.Magni wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:07 pmWhat I meant is wether you can take all the commendation rewards so long as you do all the bonus objectives. You had to skip at least one in AO'41 early on, and I'd hate to end up having to skip something because I took earlier rewards that are less enticing.adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:05 pmYes, you still earn CD points for each/all bonus objectives. Some of them are used for prototype and/or Soviet equipment so read carefully and decide if you really want it or not. If not, once again, it isn't imperative for you to meet them all to get the "best stuff." I usually do, however, and accept all of the offers even if it involves enemy equipment that I usually don't use.
And once again, the two Rewards that are kinda set up to be the either/or choices for Rewards (like the Sturer Emil/Dicker Max choice in '41) are both good enough you don't want to skip either
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I haven't played through it all since the beta, so I don't know. And it also depends on what you consider "enticing." For me, highest priority goes to special heroes and prized German equipment, in this DLC that's primarily the Tiger tanks. I don't want to spoil or comment on what I don't know has changed since I played the beta. At the training missions, you are given a choice of accepting a female special AA/AT hero. If you decline, you can get a nearly identical male version if you choose a couple of turns later. Now, it may be possible to get them both if you have enough CD points but that would have required you to turn down some other offers earlier in the DLC, otherwise you'd not have enough. Kind of like the '41 training mission where you can get both AT units if you turn down some of the previous offers earlier in the DLC. Hope that helps!Magni wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:07 pmWhat I meant is wether you can take all the commendation rewards so long as you do all the bonus objectives. You had to skip at least one in AO'41 early on, and I'd hate to end up having to skip something because I took earlier rewards that are less enticing.adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:05 pmYes, you still earn CD points for each/all bonus objectives. Some of them are used for prototype and/or Soviet equipment so read carefully and decide if you really want it or not. If not, once again, it isn't imperative for you to meet them all to get the "best stuff." I usually do, however, and accept all of the offers even if it involves enemy equipment that I usually don't use.
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Iirc i got all of them, i had enough cp to do soadiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:15 pmI haven't played through it all since the beta, so I don't know. And it also depends on what you consider "enticing." For me, highest priority goes to special heroes and prized German equipment, in this DLC that's primarily the Tiger tanks. I don't want to spoil or comment on what I don't know has changed since I played the beta. At the training missions, you are given a choice of accepting a female special AA/AT hero. If you decline, you can get a nearly identical male version if you choose a couple of turns later. Now, it may be possible to get them both if you have enough CD points but that would have required you to turn down some other offers earlier in the DLC, otherwise you'd not have enough. Kind of like the '41 training mission where you can get both AT units if you turn down some of the previous offers earlier in the DLC. Hope that helps!Magni wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:07 pmWhat I meant is wether you can take all the commendation rewards so long as you do all the bonus objectives. You had to skip at least one in AO'41 early on, and I'd hate to end up having to skip something because I took earlier rewards that are less enticing.adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:05 pmYes, you still earn CD points for each/all bonus objectives. Some of them are used for prototype and/or Soviet equipment so read carefully and decide if you really want it or not. If not, once again, it isn't imperative for you to meet them all to get the "best stuff." I usually do, however, and accept all of the offers even if it involves enemy equipment that I usually don't use.
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Reading the LUA scripts, I believe there is supposed to be such a choice between the woman officer (Karla Wuhrer) and the regular officer (Karl Ullmann) AT/AA hero selection in the training scenario. However, due to a coding error in Cerberus scenario's LUA script, you can get both.
The text in Cerberus say the FW190A and Bf109Z restocking will cost 3 commendation points while it subtracts only 2. The LUA script for the Kummersdorf scenario is supposed to skip Ullmann is there are less than 3 commendation points. If Cerberus works as the speech text implies, then you would have only 2 points. If the Cerberus commendation points reward is buggy as I read it, then you'll have exactly 3 points left and trigger Ullmann.
I skipped the PzIIIN reward in Demyansk just in case the developers release a patch (and fix Cerberus) before I get to it.
The text in Cerberus say the FW190A and Bf109Z restocking will cost 3 commendation points while it subtracts only 2. The LUA script for the Kummersdorf scenario is supposed to skip Ullmann is there are less than 3 commendation points. If Cerberus works as the speech text implies, then you would have only 2 points. If the Cerberus commendation points reward is buggy as I read it, then you'll have exactly 3 points left and trigger Ullmann.
I skipped the PzIIIN reward in Demyansk just in case the developers release a patch (and fix Cerberus) before I get to it.
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The Kummersdorf lua also has an error that it checks for 3CP to fire the male hero (Ullmann) event but only cost 2 CP to get him (and is written as costing 2), so if both works as written, it is still possible to get both heroes.Panzer73 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:01 pm Reading the LUA scripts, I believe there is supposed to be such a choice between the woman officer (Karla Wuhrer) and the regular officer (Karl Ullmann) AT/AA hero selection in the training scenario. However, due to a coding error in Cerberus scenario's LUA script, you can get both.
The text in Cerberus say the FW190A and Bf109Z restocking will cost 3 commendation points while it subtracts only 2. The LUA script for the Kummersdorf scenario is supposed to skip Ullmann is there are less than 3 commendation points. If Cerberus works as the speech text implies, then you would have only 2 points. If the Cerberus commendation points reward is buggy as I read it, then you'll have exactly 3 points left and trigger Ullmann.
I skipped the PzIIIN reward in Demyansk just in case the developers release a patch (and fix Cerberus) before I get to it.
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Just put what I have retrieved from the lua scripts here as a reference:
Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.
Demyansk Pocket:
2CP for 35 Prototypes Panzer IIIN tanks
25 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, 19 Il-4 cache from the dirt airfield
Operation Cerberus:
15 Prototypes Fw 190A from scenario start
3CP (due to lua script error, only check for 2 and cost 2) for 15 Prototypes Fw 190A and 19 Prototypes Bf 109Z
Kummersdorf:
1CP for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P)
2CP for a female officer, Karla Wuhrer, AT and AA Class, has Rapid Fire 2x and Fast Learner
2CP (due to lua script error, check for 3CP but still cost 2) for a male officer, Karl Ullmann, AT and AA Class, has Rapid Fire 2x and Learns from Mistakes
30 Captured SU-122 assault guns and 15 Captured T-34-57 in exchange with the Captured SU-100Y token from AO 41 Battle of Moscow challenge objective
Kerch Peninsula:
19 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, 23 Su-2 cache from the village in swamp guarded by a naval infantry and a 203mm
Second Battle of Kharkov:
3CP for 21 Prototypes Bf 109Z
Voronezh:
25 Yak-1, 10 La-5, 21 Il-4 cache
Voroshilovegrad SDO:
4CP for 50 Captured 42M Toldi IIa Hungarian light tanks
Novorossiysk:
34 MiG-3, 11 La-5, 28 Pe-3 cache
Grozny:
2CP for 35 Prototypes StuG IIIG assault guns
17 La-5, 28 Tu-2 cache
Battle of Lake Ladoga:
If the 18th PG in the eastern forest survived, you get a event to recruit Gero von Manstein, a Infantry Class hero with Zero Slots and Vigilant for 2CP for fullfilling the Unique Objective from Manstein
Bombing of Stalingrad:
3CP for 35 Prototypes He 219 heavy fighter
Street of Stalingrad:
5CP for 35 Prototypes Tiger I
Assault on Stalingrad:
5CP for 35 Prototypes Tiger I
Operation Blut
1 Captured SMG Infantry as token for finishing this ahistorical path in AO 42
Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.
Demyansk Pocket:
2CP for 35 Prototypes Panzer IIIN tanks
25 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, 19 Il-4 cache from the dirt airfield
Operation Cerberus:
15 Prototypes Fw 190A from scenario start
3CP (due to lua script error, only check for 2 and cost 2) for 15 Prototypes Fw 190A and 19 Prototypes Bf 109Z
Kummersdorf:
1CP for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P)
2CP for a female officer, Karla Wuhrer, AT and AA Class, has Rapid Fire 2x and Fast Learner
2CP (due to lua script error, check for 3CP but still cost 2) for a male officer, Karl Ullmann, AT and AA Class, has Rapid Fire 2x and Learns from Mistakes
30 Captured SU-122 assault guns and 15 Captured T-34-57 in exchange with the Captured SU-100Y token from AO 41 Battle of Moscow challenge objective
Kerch Peninsula:
19 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, 23 Su-2 cache from the village in swamp guarded by a naval infantry and a 203mm
Second Battle of Kharkov:
3CP for 21 Prototypes Bf 109Z
Voronezh:
25 Yak-1, 10 La-5, 21 Il-4 cache
Voroshilovegrad SDO:
4CP for 50 Captured 42M Toldi IIa Hungarian light tanks
Novorossiysk:
34 MiG-3, 11 La-5, 28 Pe-3 cache
Grozny:
2CP for 35 Prototypes StuG IIIG assault guns
17 La-5, 28 Tu-2 cache
Battle of Lake Ladoga:
If the 18th PG in the eastern forest survived, you get a event to recruit Gero von Manstein, a Infantry Class hero with Zero Slots and Vigilant for 2CP for fullfilling the Unique Objective from Manstein
Bombing of Stalingrad:
3CP for 35 Prototypes He 219 heavy fighter
Street of Stalingrad:
5CP for 35 Prototypes Tiger I
Assault on Stalingrad:
5CP for 35 Prototypes Tiger I
Operation Blut
1 Captured SMG Infantry as token for finishing this ahistorical path in AO 42
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not even if you get them to surrender seriously what ? also i noticed that there was some special GERMAN Commisar unit in Madrid but nothing no mention unlike with Vega
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You get the prestige for the train, if that's what you want. That's the International Brigade with Hans Beimler as volunteer fighter and the commisar, he was killed in this battle when defending Madrid from the Nationalists. There were many volunteers from different countries in the International Brigades, no wonder there was a German.CaesarCzech wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:33 pmnot even if you get them to surrender seriously what ? also i noticed that there was some special GERMAN Commisar unit in Madrid but nothing no mention unlike with Vega
Re: Commendations, Caches, and Collectables
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:45 pm Just put what I have retrieved from the lua scripts here as a reference:
Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.
Demyansk Pocket:
2CP for 35 Prototypes Panzer IIIN tanks
25 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, 19 Il-4 cache from the dirt airfield
Operation Cerberus:
15 Prototypes Fw 190A from scenario start
3CP (due to lua script error, only check for 2 and cost 2) for 15 Prototypes Fw 190A and 19 Prototypes Bf 109Z
Kummersdorf:
1CP for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P)
2CP for a female officer, Karla Wuhrer, AT and AA Class, has Rapid Fire 2x and Fast Learner
2CP (due to lua script error, check for 3CP but still cost 2) for a male officer, Karl Ullmann, AT and AA Class, has Rapid Fire 2x and Learns from Mistakes
30 Captured SU-122 assault guns and 15 Captured T-34-57 in exchange with the Captured SU-100Y token from AO 41 Battle of Moscow challenge objective
Kerch Peninsula:
19 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, 23 Su-2 cache from the village in swamp guarded by a naval infantry and a 203mm
Second Battle of Kharkov:
3CP for 21 Prototypes Bf 109Z
Voronezh:
25 Yak-1, 10 La-5, 21 Il-4 cache
Voroshilovegrad SDO:
4CP for 50 Captured 42M Toldi IIa Hungarian light tanks
Novorossiysk:
34 MiG-3, 11 La-5, 28 Pe-3 cache
Grozny:
2CP for 35 Prototypes StuG IIIG assault guns
17 La-5, 28 Tu-2 cache
Battle of Lake Ladoga:
If the 18th PG in the eastern forest survived, you get a event to recruit Gero von Manstein, a Infantry Class hero with Zero Slots and Vigilant for 2CP for fullfilling the Unique Objective from Manstein
Bombing of Stalingrad:
3CP for 35 Prototypes He 219 heavy fighter
Street of Stalingrad:
5CP for 35 Prototypes Tiger I
Assault on Stalingrad:
5CP for 35 Prototypes Tiger I
Operation Blut
1 Captured SMG Infantry as token for finishing this ahistorical path in AO 42
Thanks
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When are you supposed to get the offer for Tiger Is in Streets of Stalingrad? I started the level with 7 CP and never got the offer?
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I got the offer from Assault on Stalingrad, but not the one in Streets. And I had saved up enough CP to get both.BaronVonKrieg wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:32 pmMby its bugged i always got it during assault on stalingrad
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I had the same issue, no extra 35 points worth of Tigers in Streets of Stalingrad. I also never got the SMG Infantry in Operation Blut.Magni wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:32 pmI got the offer from Assault on Stalingrad, but not the one in Streets. And I had saved up enough CP to get both.BaronVonKrieg wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:32 pmMby its bugged i always got it during assault on stalingrad
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SMG is added directly to your equipment pool after you win the scenario, so there is no way to know you have got it for now, unless you rename your saved AO 42 core file to one of the early AO's and import it into the later AO.
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There are some fixes and changes coming up in AO 42, with some extra attention towards Caches of Lend-Lease equipment.
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Where do we see on the screen right now how many Commendations points we have ? I can no longer find this indication...
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CPs appear in the top bar, to the right of where Influence is shown. However, this is only for AO 41 and AO 42. Previous DLCs don't have the feature. Could that be why you're not seeing it? Kerensky mentioned at some point wanting to back-port it to the earlier DLCs, but of course that kind of work has to be weighed against work for future DLCs.
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Yes, that's it. I'm playing AO 1940 and there is no CPs indicatorScrapulous wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:17 am CPs appear in the top bar, to the right of where Influence is shown. However, this is only for AO 41 and AO 42. Previous DLCs don't have the feature. Could that be why you're not seeing it? Kerensky mentioned at some point wanting to back-port it to the earlier DLCs, but of course that kind of work has to be weighed against work for future DLCs.
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