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New units and 3d model correction wish list

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After the announcement of the Pacific campaign I understand why the technical and 3D modeling sector has not made great progress on AO's DLCs, they were busy creating the Japanese units and the new gameplay dynamics for that scenario. Once the bulk of that work is over, I hope they will return to investing in innovation also for the European scenarios. Therefore I would like to open this wish list on the missing units and its 3d models to fix ...
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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Missing German units:
- stosstruppen / élite infantry unit
- osttruppen (conscript from 1943/1944)
- Marder I
- Pz38 late model exemple Pz38g
- Me262 tactical bomber/rocket version

German 3d models to be corrected:
- PzIII and Hetzer flamethrower need some details to distinguish them from the ordinary model;
- Me109 models F and G need some details to distinguish each other;

Italian 3d model to be corrected:
- 1943 infantry helmet: the Italians have never adopted the German one, better put on the previous helmet;
- M13 tanks 1940/41/42 version need some details to distinguish each other;
- G50 Plane has wrong 3d model (Re2000 one) better if use the Macchi200 one.

Missing Ussr units:
- nkvd infantry;
- Guards 1943;
- Cavalry Guards;
- Kv1s version

Ussr 3d model to be corrected:
- Kv1 1940/41/42 versions need some details to distinguish each other;
- T26 flamethrower need some details to distinguish it from ordinary model;
- T34 flamethrower has wrong 3d model (T34/43 instead of correct T34/41) and need some details to distinguish it from ordinary model;
- La5 and La7 Planes need some details to distinguish each other;
- partisans has same model of smg infantry...
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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-Italian paratrooper has the same model of Fallschirmjager, but It’s wrong
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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The PzIII and Hetzer flamethrowers should be simple updates. They just need shorter and wider barrels to simulate the flamethrower covers.

How about replacing the PzII flamethrower with a CharB1 flamethrower? :twisted: Historically it would be more accurate in terms of actual combat usage.

What would you recommend as the stats/traits for Stosstruppen to make them unique from Engineers and Azul?
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Stosstruppen could have same stats of Pioneers but without bunkerkiller and mineswepers, moviment point as regular infantry and 1 or more + hard attack
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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really think new model for partisans would improve game you wouldn't realize that's what they are unless you look at unit info
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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scott_mathieson wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:57 pm really think new model for partisans would improve game you wouldn't realize that's what they are unless you look at unit info
Pat same week ago wrote that new model for partisans was ready and it will be in next dlc... hope It arrive soon!
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finish ski troops woop woop :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:17 pm finish ski troops woop woop :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Yeah, all finnish rooster!! 😉
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:44 pm
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:17 pm finish ski troops woop woop :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Yeah, all finnish rooster!! 😉
laughs in perkele, i mean it was an missed opportunity it would have been a great gift unit for finish scenarios
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- T34-85 flamethrower need some details to distinguish it from ordinary model
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- L3 and L6 flamethrower need some details to distinguish them from the ordinary model;
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Stug 3 variants have unusual gun barrel sizes
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:44 am
scott_mathieson wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:57 pm really think new model for partisans would improve game you wouldn't realize that's what they are unless you look at unit info
Pat same week ago wrote that new model for partisans was ready and it will be in next dlc... hope It arrive soon!
Yes its done but I don't know if it made it to the current release of 42. The build usually goes to production very early.

However I've seen them in the current build so when the inevitable patch comes out for 42 I would expect it to be included. ( Note: don't try to change the camo on them because it will break and is not undoable - the camo system is designed to change the camo of 1 unit in a hex .. not 3 .. )

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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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Patrick Ward wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:20 pm
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:44 am
scott_mathieson wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:57 pm really think new model for partisans would improve game you wouldn't realize that's what they are unless you look at unit info
Pat same week ago wrote that new model for partisans was ready and it will be in next dlc... hope It arrive soon!
Yes its done but I don't know if it made it to the current release of 42. The build usually goes to production very early.

However I've seen them in the current build so when the inevitable patch comes out for 42 I would expect it to be included. ( Note: don't try to change the camo on them because it will break and is not undoable - the camo system is designed to change the camo of 1 unit in a hex .. not 3 .. )

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Thanks Pat, then we look forward to the next patch!
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Patrick Ward wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:20 pm Yes its done but I don't know if it made it to the current release of 42. The build usually goes to production very early.

However I've seen them in the current build so when the inevitable patch comes out for 42 I would expect it to be included. ( Note: don't try to change the camo on them because it will break and is not undoable - the camo system is designed to change the camo of 1 unit in a hex .. not 3 .. )

Pat
That's great news, thanks! :) Regarding the 'three units' thing — does that mean that all other infantry units are 3 same models and partisans would use 3 different ones? Or did I get it wrong?
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Khancotlette wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:16 am
Patrick Ward wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:20 pm Yes its done but I don't know if it made it to the current release of 42. The build usually goes to production very early.

However I've seen them in the current build so when the inevitable patch comes out for 42 I would expect it to be included. ( Note: don't try to change the camo on them because it will break and is not undoable - the camo system is designed to change the camo of 1 unit in a hex .. not 3 .. )

Pat
That's great news, thanks! :) Regarding the 'three units' thing — does that mean that all other infantry units are 3 same models and partisans would use 3 different ones? Or did I get it wrong?
Yes. Thats right. Same as the Spanish Militia. As soon as you give them new camo then they're effectively broken for that scenario. You can't get their original back ( and I suspect if they carry over to the next then they'll likewise be broken). Its an unfortunate side effect of having three models occupy one space .. unless you want us to change it so you can add individual camo to every element on a hex .. imagine how much fun that would be .. ( no it wouldn't )

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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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Hungarians Heavy Infantry needs his own 3d model, now has the same of regular infantry.
Hungarians Engeneers needs flamethrower
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Panzer IVG - it has two production models early and late, in game its modeld after early version with KwK 40 L/43 late versions used KwK 40 L/48, so by stats G version should be modled with KwK 40 L/48 but its modeled with KwK 40 L/43 instead
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Re: New units and 3d model correction wish list

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Pt34 (mineswiper) has model of T34-43 but it appears in early 1942, so two solutions:
1. Change model in T34-42;
2. Remove it from 1942 scenarios
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