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Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by Markusr1307 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:50 am

Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

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Reason: live links removed, and this also has nothing to do with PC2 either

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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by Kerensky » Thu May 23, 2019 8:52 pm

I dunno, this is pretty on topic for Panzer Corps... 1 or 2. It will absolutely affect Panzer Corps 2 content and videos and playthroughs once they hit youtube, my moderator friends. :)

The short:

Yup.

And I highly doubt there will be anything you can do about this.

Sorry.

The long:

Youtube changed a lot since Panzer Corps. There are many things that just don't work the way it used to. There are lots of resources you can look up on this topic. The 'ad-pocalypse' of youtube. Massive demonetization of huge swaths of creator content. It's not just Panzer Corps/Wehrmacht with its loose ties to Nazism, but that definitely is one of the big things they are attacking. If you look at any history channel these days, you will notice they have replaced all of their swastikas with the youtube logo.
https://youtu.be/r8olVKzLpXY?t=61
It's a subtle jab, but cuts right to the heart of the issue.

But you know what, too bad. You want to make money using youtube's systems you HAVE to play by their rules. You are trying to monetize your videos I see, and if you didn't you wouldn't have this problem BTW. So people can complain and cry about what they determine are draconian rules, but thems the rules, and often for good reason. They don't want liability for when a mass shooter has a youtube history full of 'offensive' videos and people start talking how youtube is a breeding ground for nazis. That's what twitter is for. ;)
https://youtu.be/LU9vXfnh9Hs?t=36
It's the same rules that keep Islamic extremism off of youtube. Do you really want some beheading video going viral under youtube's algorithms and coming up in your recommended feed as a result? No fuck that. It's their house, their rules, and people think they can just produce whatever content they want AND make money? Nope that shit doesn't fly anymore. People can hate on youtube all the want, but it won't change anything. What are you going to do, post videos to some other digital video site? Good luck getting any audience anywhere else.

However.

What a lot of people have learned to do as a result of these rules is to demonetize their channels. Now they can post whatever they want to youtube (within limits, no @#$% kiddie porn gtfo with that seriously). And then you have to monetize independently of youtube. It's why every video these days ends with a full minute of the exact same thing every other video on every other channel has. Like, share, subscribe, visit our patreon, become a supporter, blah blah blah. That's your solution to the monetization problem.

Me personally, don't monetize anything I put on youtube. Not my videos with mere dozens of views nor my videos with 10 or even 100s of thousands of views (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=birji_-4r7w 36k views with crazy good like ratio 169:1 :mrgreen: /flex). I just use it to share interesting things, and I stay away from the sticky problems that come with monetization. I mean it's literally why games are always so restrictive with what licenses they can use or even reference, while modders go insane and do whatever they want. One is about the $$$, and the other isn't.
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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by Kerensky » Thu May 23, 2019 9:06 pm

But yea, as someone who watches way too much youtube, to the point where I don't have a TV or cable/satellite subscription in the house anymore, I just watch youtube.

So I am intimately familiar with this particular controversy. And there's no hiding Panzer Corps is about Germany when it was under Nazi rule, no matter how many references to Hitler and the Nazis that gets scrubbed out of the game so it can be sold in places like... Germany. lol

It comes with the territory, but I embrace and accept it, and most importantly, understand that you have to play by the rules laid down by whatever service you're using, especially when you're trying to make money from said service. :!: :!: :!:

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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by robertahyuk » Fri May 24, 2019 11:41 am

I agree 100 % with you Kerensky! Seen too much crap on You Tube over the years.
I just want to play the game without getting into any politics over it.

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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by Razz1 » Fri May 24, 2019 4:00 pm

It has the Maltese in the description.
Nazi symbols not allowed in Europe.

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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by zakblood » Fri May 24, 2019 4:35 pm

as i don't know who is a you tuber and who isn't, i side on the side of caution and will keep killing every live link anyone posts unless i know them, so as not to advertise someone ability to spam you tube from a view per view watch point of view, as some make a living from it, and while that's still adverting the game, for me i'm only for the makers and developers etc, and not for 3rd parties, if you understand my point etc

and unless told or explained otherwise, for me the less live links the better, as i check everyone i find, from those i don't know, so anyone else going to the link, is safe, as it's too easy to embed code into links to redirect etc

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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by Mord » Fri May 24, 2019 9:02 pm

Kerensky wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:06 pm
but I embrace and accept it,
Unreal...


Mord.

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Post by Kerensky » Fri May 24, 2019 10:02 pm

Mord wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 9:02 pm
Unreal...


Mord.
You're right, Panzer Corps 2 does run on the Unreal Engine. :)

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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by uneducated » Tue May 28, 2019 10:59 pm

Well spotted, markuser1307.

The controlled media want to censor everything and control all we see, say and do. I hope everybody, Slitherine included, start migrating to platforms which support freedom of expression and don't try and control your conversations.

There are quite a few alternatives for video hosting now which are rapidly growing in popularity. They are not difficult to use. Slitherine and users here should consider some of the following:

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https://minds.com
https://bitchute.com
https://joinpeertube.org/en/
https://d.tube/

https://ipfstube.erindachtler.me/
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Re: Panzer Corps Wehrmacht Youtube claims the game of slitherine.com is inappropriate !!!

Post by enpi » Wed May 29, 2019 2:30 pm

Kerensky wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 8:52 pm


But you know what, too bad. You want to make money using youtube's systems you HAVE to play by their rules. You are trying to monetize your videos I see, and if you didn't you wouldn't have this problem BTW. So people can complain and cry about what they determine are draconian rules, but thems the rules, and often for good reason. They don't want liability for when a mass shooter has a youtube history full of 'offensive' videos and people start talking how youtube is a breeding ground for nazis.
Yep. Its a difficult ground nowadays. Opinion comes now with a price. If youtube is right, and one can assume they have good reasons to flag and later even ban PC2 videos, then maybe we should not buy Panzer Corps 2 because of its hate content.

Dont get me wrong. I like strategy games, but if they spread hate among us and freely promotes Nazis, we should possibly avoid such titles.

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Post by Kerensky » Wed May 29, 2019 9:06 pm

Your sarcasm is showing. :P

And you know, I can't speak for Panzer Corps 2, but I would easily bet they don't have a secret pro-Nazi message/agenda. I think the odds they've give me for that in Vegas are... 1:1? :roll:
Just the same as youtube history channels that cover the same topic and era, I hope you guys realize they also aren't doing anything to or attempting to promote Nazism...?

It's unfortunate, but that attitude is exactly why they are taking the position they are taking. Because it's possible for some people to leap to the completely wrong conclusions based on absolutely nothing (there's zero actual evidence PzC or PzC2 support nazi ideals). And as soon as there's money involved, suddenly the accusations of active support are thrown out.

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Post by hugh2711 » Thu May 30, 2019 3:19 pm

I am sure eventually it will make sense for slitherine to host AAR videos themselves.

( e.g. give it a few years -not many at all at the current rate !- when you can only access youtube (or alternatives) by signing in with the goverment mandated barcode tattoed on your rear :-) , I will not be using youtube or the mandatorily similarly controlled and tracked equivalents.)

The launch of PZC2 is a good opportunity to test this for registered users and get data in terms of usage, how long to keep them, rules etc.

How about it slitherine?

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Post by IainMcNeil » Fri May 31, 2019 11:27 am

Hi guys,

I cant find any PzC videos that display a warning. If you can send me a link I'll have a look.

As youtube is so widely used, the chance of us developing out own AAR system for videos is extremely unlikely. It would be an awful lot of work for very little benefit if any, as its unlikely to be as good as youtube. Well lets be honest there's no way it would be as good as youtube :)

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Post by JB72 » Fri May 31, 2019 2:56 pm

I cant find any PzC videos that display a warning. If you can send me a link I'll have a look.
As youtube is so widely used, the chance of us developing out own AAR system for videos is extremely unlikely. It would be an awful lot of work for very little benefit if any, as its unlikely to be as good as youtube. Well lets be honest there's no way it would be as good as youtube
Perhaps - you shouldnt release your WW2 products not on Adolf Hitlers birthday !
http://www.slitherine.com/products/677/ ... iegsmarine

I think - thats the problem for some youtube operators in Germany - the Munich public prosecutor's office at least that's what he wrote down.
Thats really a NO GO in Germany !

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Post by Longasc » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:25 am

I haven't found any censored Panzer Corps/General videos displaying a warning so far.

Youtube has, especially in Germany, lots of "make Facebook a better place" like reporting hit-squads. In Germany you just have to upload anything containing anything related to WW2 or the N word and the self proclaimed do gooders swarm you to report it. And Youtube's highly qualified censors or whatever we like to call them decide to oblige.

[Removed Politics. Please keep it off our forums, thanks!]

As a totally inappropriate person, I love playing Panzer Corps and world history, not only WW2, that is also collecting dangerous Swiss Army Knives and has a few other super dangerous knives of some 7-11cm length and a super dangerous Leatherman with a locking blade, oh noes, there is probably no need to take me serious, as I am obviously a psychopath. :cry:

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Post by Kerensky » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:30 pm

This topic is a tightrope. lol

The opening line spells it out pretty well.
"Turning a war against fascism that occurred within living memory and resulted in the deaths of more than 70 million people into a mass-market entertainment product is inevitably going to be an undertaking fraught with risk."
https://www.pcgamer.com/ea-accidentally ... i-fascist/

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Post by Kerensky » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:46 am

This one comes from imgur. Very much a current topic.

https://i.imgur.com/vA2GPcX.jpg

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Post by goose_2 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:26 pm

Me personally, don't monetize anything I put on youtube. Not my videos with mere dozens of views nor my videos with 10 or even 100s of thousands of views (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=birji_-4r7w 36k views with crazy good like ratio 169:1 :mrgreen: /flex).

Kerensky, I checked this video is restricted. Most of my videos are restricted, even the ones that I do not put videos on them, while others do not get restricted, it seems so arbitrary and capricious and as such it is frustrating as I do not try to monetize, I just would like my content available for peoples enjoyment
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Post by tucsonbandit » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:09 pm

Kerensky wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 9:06 pm
Your sarcasm is showing. :P

And you know, I can't speak for Panzer Corps 2, but I would easily bet they don't have a secret pro-Nazi message/agenda. I think the odds they've give me for that in Vegas are... 1:1? :roll:

I don't think you understand Vegas or odds or maybe both; either that or you actually misstate what you believe to be true.

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Post by verstaubtgesicht » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:15 pm

The Big Brother is here...

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